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I only see one person (Gary Wilson) who is posting on this board that is recently from Fullerton.  Where's everyone else?  Fullerton was/is the largest of all the Geftakys Meetings in the system.   Yould think there would be a larger representation on the BB.  Maybe they need a little more time?  I sure would like to hear from others.

JJ

ps. If anyone wants to get in touch with me, visit my website www.stewardville.com (http://www.stewardville.com) or PM me.

Dear JJ:

Here I am!!! I have done a few posts.  Much is happening in Fullerton.  Please e-mail me to talk.

Your brother in Christ,

Matt Sciaini

Hi anyone still "in Fellowship"  What is happening in fullerton?  If all of the leaders have stepped down does this mean I can come back?

Dear Dave:

In response to your post--

I am surprised that you would WANT to come back, seeing as how you have written in a previous post that you do not consider yourself a "born-again" Christian, and have joined the Unitarian church.  We are seeking the Lord's mind for the future of the gathering here, and yes, leadership has stepped down, though the men formerly holding those places (save George Geftakys) are with us to seek the Lord.

However, keep in touch--I trust we will have fellowships in the park or whatever in the future.  

Maybe see you at the Kinko's in Whittier again.

Matt Sciaini

Hey Matt, I would like to email you but you never gave your email address.  

JJ

What are the people in SF, SFV,andSac doing?

We have yet to see anyone post (acknowledging who they are, at least) from the San Fernando Valley.  Eric, Loretta, Greg and myself are all from the Valley and we sure would like to know what is going on.  The only thing we are getting from the people who are still speaking with us (very few) is that they are not making any decision soon.  

Word has it that there is a meeting going on today, that perhaps will determine a decision.

Please pray that their eyes would be opened (completely, not just regarding George and his "indiscretions" but the ministry as a whole.)

The Valley, SF, Sacramento, and perhaps Pasadena,  (not sure about West LA)  Need to disband and scatter.

Some of the other groups might possibly carry on in a totally different format, but this itself will a miracle if it happens.

Testa has chosen to side with an evil man.  At best, he has such bad judgement that he is a danger to his family and neighbors on the grounds of pure ignorance.

More likely, he is truly corrupt, and very deceived as well.  He is not fit to lead, period.  Those who have suffered under his dominion, including Jim Karditzas, must get out, and away, and must never attempt to go back.  

If SF continues, it will do so as a full blown cult.  It will be far worse than an unhealthy place of fellowship.  It will become a truly dangerous cult, where all of the demons that energized George will come to roost.  They will have been given permission, by the followers, to do much more mischief than they were able to under George, because the people will have welcomed them knowing full well what they were doing.  Deception is terrible, but calling Evil good is far more grave.

Scott Testa, Tim McCarthy, Jim McCallister: Step Down NOW!!  Matt 18: 6-7  Mark 9:42

From everything I am hearing, the Valley is similiar to SF, with the exception that they are waffling and triangulating whether or not it is strategic to excommunicate, or not.  What Pharisees!

Valley people, take heed to Mat. 15:14,  Leave them!  Get out now!!!

Depending on what happens here tonite, we will determine if the wonderful new "tone" of the website changes.

I promise I will NOT ever use sarcasm again.  I repented. :)

Brent

Brent,  I'm shocked that there are still assy's out there willing to side and defend such horrible acts.  God have mercy on them!  I'm also amazed and again since I'm not in CA , I'm not aware of any legal action being pursued?  I feel that both George & David need to have severe consequences for their actions, not just spiritual ones, but consequences here on this earth too!

Sadly, I am getting the same kind of information regarding Sac and SF. They are wrangling over words and carefully straining out gnats. I hope and pray this changes soon.  :'(

Political manuevering.

Hopefully not the case, but probable.


(((  BURN THE BLASPHEMER !!! )))


Sorry, got on my soapbox.  :)

Dear Brent:

I spoke with a brother here in Fullerton who has a daughter and son-in-law in fellowship there in San Francisco (they are part of the outreach in San Jose) and according to him Scott Testa and the SF brethren have received all the information concerning George's sin and deceit and have refused him a place to preach, nor are taking side anymore.

If anybody has other intelligence on this, post it.

Matt Sciaini

Dear Friends

If you are aware of legal action, please do not post ANY info about it on this bulletin board.  

That is, unless you want to encourage Mr. Geftakys to travel a broad.

 ;)

Brent

Has anyone talked to or heard about Betty G in all of this? Was she included in the letter of excommunication that was sent out? Just wondering.
 

Matt since there are no leaders I was hopeing to come and get some lunch!!!! Just kidding I would love to indoctrinate people on Unitarianism but I don't know what a Unitarian is yet.  I promise I will sit in  the back of the meeting and just  love everyone. If there are no leaders what are Tim, Mark Gary doing, My fear is they will wait around and retake their positions after the sorm has blown over.  Don't forget it was these very men who enabled George these past 30 years!

Hey Dave Kennedy Whats happening in west L.A.?  Bill Bradbury, Greg Brislawn?  Walter Poppoff?  

Dave,

Were you and I right about the nature of GG's "confession" or what?

I too, have been set free as of last week (1/23/03).  What did it for me was the fact that one of the leading brothers in SLO said on 1/19/03 that this website would serve the pupose of "healing".  He said this after the meeting between the SLO LB's, Brent and Calvary Chapel SLO.  Since this site was then deemed 'ok' by the leadership (as if they ever had the authority to do that anyway), I sought to satisfy my curiosity.  After being immersed in the site for almost 4 days straight, I was overwhelmed by the truth.  It is an ugly truth, but it is the truth nonetheless.  And, by it I have been set free.  I so enjoy visiting this site to get the latest info and hear the shouts of joy from other escapees and refugees.

God bless you,
Jack

SO NOW BRENT IS THE LORD AND HAS THE MIND OF THE LORD TO MAKE SUCH RECOMMENDATIONS?????

Dear Gues

No, only George has the mind of the Lord.  I only have a little common sense.
What do you have?

Brent

Please understand, this is not in any way an excuse for the leading brothers but Betty has got to blame somebody. Couldn't possibly admit she knew anything or could have done anything because she herself is directly responsible for most of this.

She was the money person. She had a computer in the upstairs boudoir where she kept account, at least at the beginning, of the money, and where the sisters/secretaries would type up the high letters from his majesty. What ever became of the computer?

She was responsible for counseling. We know about the torment Judy went through with Betty and now we've heard from dear Susan McCarthy. Oh, BTW, Elizabeth Geftakys - yes, Elizabeth was also counseled by Betty in lieu of her talking to Tim & Ginger. Can you imagine?

She also was Dan Notti's mentor when he first started the wheel and line speeches (don't know what else to call them) and I get chills just thinking about the couples' meetings where sisters, dear people, were turned to mush right before our very eyes - groveling in humility and self deprecation with Betty's sincere approval, right there knodding and commenting how great it was that the sister was able to demean herself in the midst.

How can anyone think it possible for George to subject himself to anyone? He was never accountable as he was too busy making certain everyone else was accountable.

Dear Gues,

        You sound like you have had and are having a good posotive experience in the assembly gathering.  Good for you, I once did also and if anyone said or did anything against my family (The assembly) I would do everything I could to defend them. ( Just ask the owner at House of Bibles in Fullerton)   But can you take just a minute and consider that maby other people havn't experienced the good things yhat you are now at this time?  Where you are and what is happening around you may not be the whole picture?  If you would like to talk personaly  dkmteach@netscape.net

Verne,

I wish I could help you. I wish I could turn back the clock and be seated in G&B's dining room in a big old circle listening to Kimber Edwards humiliate herself with everyone's eyes wide like proverbial "deer in headlights" hoping that we wouldn't be called on or confronted in any way, waiting for the clock to move it's slow ugly hands (pre-digital) to the end of this gruesome session, but I can't! If you could have been there and if you could have said something, I would be surprised, but if you could have, you would have been cast out like so much chaff. Yet, that would have been better - in retrospect...

Verne,
I sent you an e-mail explaining the meeting more in depth...