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I just found out today that the saints in Fullerton are looking forward to Tim G being reinstated and will start preaching again. I don't understand how Fullerton can allow this. Is he not related to George and not following the same cast of corruption? Do more people need to speak out against Tim and what has happened to them for people to get a clearer idea that Tim is not a man of God? Are we not remembering what the past holds? I know for a fact that Tim and Ginger knew of the abuse between Dave & Judy. Even Ginger told Judy they would take care of her.

Is Tim going to repent in front of the whole congregation for his actions? If so, when and where? I will drive down to hear! Otherwise, is it going to be like George's repentace? Or David's? They said they did but no one knows and there is no fruit.

What is wrong with you people? Do you like bondage? Tim and Ginger are evil. They have no shepherding skills. They will run you til you are tired and then they will run you off a cliff especially if you aren't putting enough money into the til.

Hold onto your wallets folks, it is starting again!

Heide

OH!!  I SEE!!  THIS IS SO MUCH FUNNER THAN MONOPOLY!!  IT'S CALLED INHERIT YOUR FATHER'S SIN!!  WOW!!   ;D

Corrupt from birth?  Weren't we all?

WELL PAINT ME RED AND CALL ME METHUSELAH!!  WE FOUND OURSELVES SOME EVIL PEOPLE!!  LET'S STRING EM UP RIGHT HERE!!  

Nicely done.  Who's next on your evil list?

Ah, I see that you can predict the future.  Soooo...if I cross your palm with silver, can I find out if I'll ever have...uh...a million dollars?  Or a Corvette?  This is so exciting!  

 ;D ;D ;D

No but I like "a nice MLT---mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich, when the mutton is nice and lean, and the tomato is ripe."

From the Princess Bride.

Hello, Lady
(also from The Princess Bride)

     Don't mind Luke!  He's just trying to rack up more minus-points for attitude.  Rumor has it that if no one else give them to him, he awards them to himself.  After all, he has a reputation to uphold!


     Anyway, regarding Fullerton and Tim G and bondage:
It's documented fact that some ex-convicts will deliberately commit crimes that will get them incarcerated again, because freedom frightens them.  Having established a routine of living with clear-cut parameters, however restrictive, they do not wish to be on their own.

     Some saints, for whatever reasons, have never grasped what Jesus Christ has accomplished for them.  If they are geared toward the false sense of security that routine provides, Fullerton as-is will satisfy them.  Following Tim Geftakys will seem as comfortable as an old shoe.  

     All we can do, Heidi, is tell them the truth and pray for them.  You can lead a saint to the Living Water, but you can't make him drink.

Humbly and gratefully,
brother al

I think Axis of Evil is already taken, though that might have been a fitting nomenclature for these men.
Heidi, is this verifiable?  I thought the Fullerton assembly was soon to be or is now no longer in existence.  No?

Dear Al,

"OH! THE SOT HAS SPOKEN! WHAT HAPPENS TO HER IS NOT TRULY YOUR CONCERN. I WILL KILL HER, AND REMEMBER THIS, NEVER FORGET THIS: WHEN I FOUND YOU, YOU WERE SO SLOBBERING DRUNK, YOU COULDN'T BUY BRANDY! AND YOU! FRIENDLESS, BRAINLESS, HELPLESS, HOPELESS! DO YOU WANT ME TO SEND YOU BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE, UNEMPLOYED, IN GREENLAND!!!"

also from the Princess Bride.   ;D  ;D  ;D

Want to give me some negative points while you're at it?
 

Hey Arthur,

I thought the same thing since the leading brothers stepped down but NO. The news down there is everything is still the same, still meeting, waiting for Tim to be reinstated and soon he will start preaching again. I wanted to get this verified.

Interesting that Luke should mention, sins of the Father. I do believe that is biblical. So Luke, even though George was corrupt and David is corrupt, are you trying to tell me that Tim has remained unscathed? Is this where the "Bill loves Hillary" comment comes in? Although you quoting lines from Princess Bride ought to tell me something right there. Maybe it is time to step up in your movies, watch something manly....

Heide

Yeah, like Conan the Barbarian.  
Conan, what is best in life?

     To crush your enemies,
     See them driven before you,
     And to hear the lamentation of the women.

Hello Heide:

Most of the people in Fullerton who have a conscience have left.  That includes the ex-leaders.  

I didn't trust Tim from the start, hence the "Who are the Wolves" article.  http://geftakysassembly.com/Wolves.html (http://geftakysassembly.com/Wolves.html)

Tim is showing his true colors.  Think about it:  He tells me that he has tried to contact Judy, when in fact the "contact" was two years ago!  Then, after getting some pressure, he writes her a lame letter.

He said he is "ashamed" of his family, yet he has been angling since day one to rise up and continue his father's work.

Here is a paradox,  Tim says he is ashamed of his father's behavior, yet he thinks his father's system should continue, with him at the helm!

Anyone who involves themselves in this deserves what is coming.  

I am not worried about Tim, and feel no need to try to stop him, as I did with George.  I am quite confident that sudden destruction will visit Tim, David and their Father.  

Anyway,  the reason Tim is being re-instated is because Richard Santian, and Gilbert  (forgot his last name) have asked him to.  Tim has apparently agreed to serve in this way.

May the Lord repay him according to his deeds.

Brent

Dear Heide,

"You don't seem excited, my little muffet."

One more from princess bride.  Thought you might like it.

"Are my methods unsound?"

"I see no method, sir."

That one's from Apocalypse Now if you want manly movies.  I think it pertains quite nicely to this thread.   ;D  ;D

"We're both professionals. But this is personal. You...are done."

That one was from Die Hard.  I thought it fit nicely.   ;D  

"We're probably just wasting fuel."

"We win... you lose!  Mission Accomplished!"

Those two were from Rambo.  Is that enough manly movie quotes for you, Heidi?  Good night.   ;D  ;D

WOW!! YOU CAN READ MINDS?!!  THIS IS AWESOME!!  OK...I KNOW THIS NEXT ONE WILL STUMP YOU!! WHAT DID I EAT...FOR LUNCH TODAY?  I MEAN IF YOU KNOW ALL THE MOVIES I WATCH, MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THAT LAST QUESTION!!  

     ...Luke, I am your father.

           --Darth Vader

Thanks Brent for the input, I was wondering how it came to be and if it was true.

Luke, let me guess what you may have had for lunch... A slice of quiche and a glass of milk? Maybe some cookies for dessert?

Dear Heidi,

Close...but no cigar.   ;D

I actually had a Ve du Twa' dipped in A la Moushka' with a side of Gwelfetro Chibretino.  

THEY ARE REALLY STEPPING UP WITH THESE CAFETERIA LUNCHES!!  MOI MOI!!

     What?!!   Master Luke at a loss for words???!!!


     ...and who could be giving him all those PLUS points?

What?!!  Mr. al is repeating himself???!!!

...and who could be giving me all those PLUS points?

You???!!!

I THOUGHT I TOLD EVERYONE NOT TO!!   ;D

By the way, I modified my last post.  Hope you like it, Mr. al.

     i NEVER repeat myself!!!

     i NEVER repeat myself!!!


Luke, you simply MUST try the primordial soup!  Deelish!!!

Great!  I was wondering what they were serving at Camarillo State Mental Hospital!  Thanks!  This convinces me even more to visit you!   ;D  ;D

By the way I added a positive attitude point for you.  You have been such a good patient!  Just for that, you can have Banana pudding after you eat your dinner!  

And we won't do the lobotomy until next week.   ;D  ;D

     Does that mean i get to keep my crayons???

Luke----

Actually Al hasn't been commited to Camarillo Mental
hospital yet. But I'm enjoying my stay here. Were
having Schizophrenic Alphabet soup tonight, and we
get to watch Rain Man later this everning.

Take care guys!!!   ;D       --Joe

Dear Joe,
  I'm sorry to have to report that Camarillo State Hospital has been closed for years and that it is now a College in the State Univ. system.
   You may have been moved and the kind attendants forgot to tell you where you are ;D.
                                                        God bless,  Mark

Mark, Joe, Luke, et al,

     When you've seen the inside of one rubber room, you've seen 'em all!

Mark---

Are you sure? it sure looks like a mental hospital in
here. There are a lot of people in here who think they are
someone else. There's a Moses and an Abraham, a Napoleon and even a Woody Allen. Woody Allen and Moses got into an argument about which was the worst plague the other night--I don't think either one won the argument though. The food's pretty good except for John the Baptist night on Wednesday's when we eat locusts. I'm sure glad there's honey to dip the things in or I'd probably starve.

They let me draw a lot though. Then they tell me how crazy
I am afterwards. It's a vicious cycle. I'm not sure who I think I am. But the other night, after I finished talking everyone said "I'm not sure what you just said, but it sure sounded wonderful!!" I had to reply "Isn't that grand?" Then I cleared my throat and started praying. I then told everyone there was a box at the back of the room and if they felt led they could drop the money in there to help me on my journey. I'm not sure where I'm going yet, but I think it's going to be loads of fun.

Take care,  Joe   ;D

     Well, i'm not sure WHERE they're holding me, but at least i know who i am!

     i'm Joe Sperling, and i did NOT write the previous post!!!

Well, at least I'm not schitzophrenic, and neither are my other personalities.

Jack (aka Bob/Dave/Harry/Jim)

ok it's late.  Time for me to go to bed!

NO!!  I AM JOE SPERLING!!

Hey--what's going on? I look int he mirror and see three
reflections!!

--Joe ;D ;D

     He probably thinks at least one of them is ME!  (which would be HIM...  IF he existed!!!)

Luke is not even worth arguing with.  He likes to make people upset.  Ignore him and maybe he'll find some better (and MANLY) to do! HA HA HA 8)

Dear EulaHAHAHA!!  Sorry--{ahem}--excuse me!!  Perhaps you can enlighten me on the art of being manly.  Between you and Heidi, you could start the Manly Club where you  just watch Rambo, Rocky, and the Terminator and drink Budweiser and eat steak.   ;D

     Behold how they love one another!!!

Actually Luke it is red wine and steak not like you who would drink beer with your steak.  The movie du jour will be "Chocolat". Afterwards we will be discussing the similiarities....