: If I were king : Arthur July 19, 2004, 12:32:08 PM If I were the ruler of the USA (Note I say ruler, because to accomplish these things would take a bit more pull than a president has. But since our democracy is all but dead, if we're going to have a dictator, it might as well be a benevolent one such as myself.)
-sodomy: outlawed, penalty death -abortion: outlawed, penalty death -death row: eliminated--death penalty to be carried out within 30 days of sentence. -welfare: eliminated -equal opportunity: eliminated -ACLU: eliminated -planned parenthood: eliminated -public schools K-12: eliminated -illegal immigrants: immediately deported -public services in multiple languages: eliminated - English only -health care: deregulated, no government interference whatsoever -income tax: flat tax rate of 10%, if necessary -if a government bureau is inefficient, the department head gets canned and a new one is put in his place until it gets efficient. After I'm through, the government will be about 90% smaller than it is now. -any court of law that tries to legislate instead of interpret the law gets the boot -any nationwide news service that instead of printing facts prints opinion and advocacy for a cause anywhere other than the editorial page gets fined 25% of their yearly income each week until they cease and desist. -I'd tell the U.N. that we are a sovereign nation and not under their control whatsoever. We may cooperate with them if in our best interest. ...these for starters Arthur : Re:If I were king : sfortescue July 19, 2004, 09:32:42 PM King Arthur!
You're sounding a bit grumpy. But then, Winston Churchill was a bit grumpy and is remembered for being a great leader. Proverbs 20:26 A wise king scattereth the wicked, and bringeth the wheel over them. A good measure of the quality of government is whether the poor are treated fairly: Proverbs 29:2,7,14 When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn. The righteous considereth the cause of the poor: but the wicked regardeth not to know it. The king that faithfully judgeth the poor, his throne shall be established for ever. False things must be brought to light by breaking the code of silence: Proverbs 29:24-25 Whoso is partner with a thief hateth his own soul: he heareth cursing, and bewrayeth it not. The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe. Deregulating health care doesn't work. It is essentially equivalent to meeting a mugger who threatens you: "Your money or your life!" and after taking all of your money kills you anyway. : Re:If I were king : Joe Sperling July 20, 2004, 12:44:53 AM Wow. Your kingdom sounds a lot like Saudi Arabia.
: Re:If I were king : Arthur July 20, 2004, 01:10:32 AM Heheh, there are some differences.
1. Women don't have to be covered head to toe in burkas. 2. I wouldn't cut people's hands off for stealing. 3. I believe in God and the Bible and my rule would reflect those values, whereas in Saudi Arabia their rule reflects Islam, the so-called religion of peace...which, in its four major sacred texts including the Koran, calls for the beheading of infidels. 4. People would be free in America, only the wicked need fear. : Re:If I were king : lenore July 20, 2004, 01:57:38 AM :o ::)July 19
DEAR KING ARTHUR: The rules for King Arthur Kingdom ======================= sodomy: outlawed, penalty death -abortion: outlawed, penalty death: Who is going to die? The one who is performing the abortion, or the one who is receiving the abortion. Does this includes anyone who has had an abortion ever? -death row: eliminated--death penalty to be carried out within 30 days of sentence. -welfare: eliminated: Are you going to guarantee people jobs to support themselves and their families? -equal opportunity: eliminated: Are you going to eliminate discrimination, so their will not be an need for equal opportunity. -ACLU: eliminated -planned parenthood: eliminated: Are you also going to eliminate birth control, teenage pregnancies; and are you going to assure that their ample help for large families, medically, financially, and home help to assist. etc. -public schools K-12: eliminated: What is K-12: Is this a dog patrolling the schools to eliminate drugs, and weapons on the school property: Are you going to also eliminate drug dealers, arms sales. Are you going to put to death the dogs. -illegal immigrants: immediately deported: How are you going to determine that they are not refugeee in need of sanctuary? Are you going to guarantee their safety upon returning to their homeland. -public services in multiple languages: eliminated - English only: Are you going to guarantee that there will be sufficient financial means, for extra teachers, books , and classrooms to teach everyone in your kingdom English. Are you going to eliminate anyone who doesnt speak English. -health care: deregulated, no government interference whatsoever: Are you going to ensure that the subjects in your kingdom have access to health care, even if they cant afford it. Are you going to eliminate diseases, illnesses, injuries, death in your kingdom. Foolish me, your are going to impose the death penalty. -income tax: flat tax rate of 10%, if necessary -if a government bureau is inefficient, the department head gets canned and a new one is put in his place until it gets efficient. After I'm through, the government will be about 90% smaller than it is now. -any court of law that tries to legislate instead of interpret the law gets the boot: Are you going to guarantee that the people in charge of judging the laws of the land, will not be subject to bribes, educated to the letter of the law, not of their own interpretation. And their judgement is unbais. (This idea of yours sounds too much like the Pharisees) -any nationwide news service that instead of printing facts prints opinion and advocacy for a cause anywhere other than the editorial page gets fined 25% of their yearly income each week until they cease and desist.: Are you going to eliminate free speech. (Careful this sounds a little to much like communionist) -I'd tell the U.N. that we are a sovereign nation and not under their control whatsoever. We may cooperate with them if in our best interest. So you are going to be a country unto yourself! 4. People would be free in America, only the wicked need fear. You know something, the rules of King Arthur's kingdom, sound like it not just the wicked needs to fear. It sounds like a dictatorship, and everyone needs to fear, not just the wicked. Because it sounds like there is no freedom. Just voicing . Lenore : Re:If I were king : al Hartman July 20, 2004, 06:47:17 AM ...Do you think King Arthur and his knights might attempt to conquer Canada? Arthur's kingdom sounds to be more benighted than beknighted... :o ::) Nonetheless, it's good to hear from you, Bro.! :) ;) :D God bless, al : Re:If I were king : lenore July 20, 2004, 07:47:13 AM Lenore, I'm 1 Canadian BB reader/poster. You sound a trifle concerned. Do you think King Arthur and his knights might attempt to conquer Canada? ;) Marcia Yes Marcia: I am concern about King Arthur and his Knights, with those types of rules he is planning to imposed, He might think Canada is an easy target. After all Canada is a mulicultural, that has two national languages that the government must serve in. Some of the other freedoms Canadians take for granted he plans to eliminated them. Well I guess Canada was a refuge for the slaves during the Civil War, and sanctuary for draft dodgers during the Vietnam War so I guess Canada will be flood with American Refugee's from King Arthur Kingdom . What do you think? One way or another Canada will be invaded/or affected. Lenore p.s. (AL) are you going to be Sir Lancelot? : Re:If I were king : Arthur July 20, 2004, 08:03:19 AM -abortion: outlawed, penalty death: Who is going to die? The one who is performing the abortion, or the one who is receiving the abortion. Does this includes anyone who has had an abortion ever? The performer of the abortion is to be executed for murder, from the proclamation date of the law on. -welfare: eliminated: Are you going to guarantee people jobs to support themselves and their families? No, no guarantees. People who were formerly on welfare will have to go out and look for jobs and work for a living, just like the rest of us who formerly supported them. Hunger is a good motivator. -equal opportunity: eliminated: Are you going to eliminate discrimination, so their will not be an need for equal opportunity. Getting rid of equal opportunity will get rid of discrimination, at least the idiotic variety. In the highering process, employers will discriminate based on merit, ability and character, and not higher someone for fear of being sued because they didn't higher someone of a certain ethnicity. -planned parenthood: eliminated: Are you also going to eliminate birth control, teenage pregnancies; and are you going to assure that their ample help for large families, medically, financially, and home help to assist. etc. A correction: that should be Planned Parenthood with the capital p's because I was referring to the government organization. People have planned parenthood on their own without government intervention for millennia. A government program isn't necessary, just individual self-control and societal shame for immorality. Planned Parenthood encourages people to do it in the streets anywhere, any time with anything that moves. Their spiel and the liberal garbage taught in public schools create the problem and then they perpetuate it. What did people do 50-100 years ago before PP in America? The husband went out and got a job and supported his family. Furthermore, you probably didn't know this, but churches and other non-government organizations privately fund crisis pregnancy centers because they want a better alternative to the godless Planned Parenthood. People are willing to shell out money from their own pockets to help people even after being taxed by the government to pay for a service which is supposed to already be provided for. Well, why not get rid of the dysfunctional, even harmful government service? I will. -public schools K-12: eliminated: What is K-12: Is this a dog patrolling the schools to eliminate drugs, and weapons on the school property: Are you going to also eliminate drug dealers, arms sales. Are you going to put to death the dogs. K-12 = Kindergarten through 12th grade. No, no death to dogs. -illegal immigrants: immediately deported: How are you going to determine that they are not refugee in need of sanctuary? Are you going to guarantee their safety upon returning to their homeland. We have borders, and we have regulations for entering our nation and becoming citizens. They may apply, and if they are willing to become one of us, swearing allegiance only to our nation, then yes they may stay. -public services in multiple languages: eliminated - English only: Are you going to guarantee that there will be sufficient financial means, for extra teachers, books , and classrooms to teach everyone in your kingdom English. Are you going to eliminate anyone who doesn’t speak English. No, it is not the responsibility of the government to teach everyone the language of our own country. If a person wants to be a citizen of this country, he must learn the language. I would think he would WANT to learn the language. If he refuses to learn the language of Americans, then he isn't worthy of being an American. No, I will not eliminate them, but they will be shown the door. You mentioned the refugee coming to America for sanctuary. If his country was so great that he’d rather speak its language than ours, why is he coming to our country for sanctuary? -health care: deregulated, no government interference whatsoever: Are you going to ensure that the subjects in your kingdom have access to health care, even if they cant afford it. Are you going to eliminate diseases, illnesses, injuries, death in your kingdom. Foolish me, your are going to impose the death penalty. No, it's not the job of the government to make sure everyone is nice and comfy and has all their needs met. The purpose of government is to ensure law and order and provide for defense against our enemies. -any court of law that tries to legislate instead of interpret the law gets the boot: Are you going to guarantee that the people in charge of judging the laws of the land, will not be subject to bribes, educated to the letter of the law, not of their own interpretation. And their judgment is unbais. (This idea of yours sounds too much like the Pharisees) Yes, I will see to it that any judge on the take gets severely punished. As far as their interpretation is concerned, I will see to it that the men who become judges are good and honest men. -any nationwide news service that instead of printing facts prints opinion and advocacy for a cause anywhere other than the editorial page gets fined 25% of their yearly income each week until they cease and desist.: They can say whatever they want in the editorial page. But if in their regular reporting columns they blatantly skew the facts and print lies to fit a particular agenda, they will be fined. -I'd tell the U.N. that we are a sovereign nation and not under their control whatsoever. We may cooperate with them if in our best interest. So you are going to be a country unto yourself! Yep, exactly! 4. People would be free in America, only the wicked need fear. You know something, the rules of King Arthur's kingdom, sound like it not just the wicked needs to fear. It sounds like a dictatorship, and everyone needs to fear, not just the wicked. Because it sounds like there is no freedom. As I said, this would not be a democracy. BTW, America's form of government is not a democracy but a republic (we elect representatives). I suppose in reality, it's an oligarchy in that no one is elected unless they have lots of money and power already. There will be plenty of freedom in my country. Freedom to live a good life in peace. Freedom from the disease of liberalism, which, as I can see from your writings, has infected your mind. Freedom from the knowledge that some pervert homosexual is in Congress making laws for you. Freedom from having to breathe the same air as those who murder millions of innocents each year. Freedom to say what you want without liberal idiots attacking you and saying you can't say that because it's discriminating and infringes on freedom. In my country liberal idiots can speak their mind all they want but no one would listen to them because we all know it's garbage anyways, yet as it is now they are in places of power. Not so when I am king. Arthur : Re:If I were king : Arthur July 20, 2004, 08:11:52 AM Arthur's kingdom sounds to be more benighted than beknighted... :o ::) Nonetheless, it's good to hear from you, Bro.! :) ;) :D God bless, al benighted: 1. Overtaken by night or darkness. 2. Being in a state of moral or intellectual darkness; unenlightened. Yeah...bro...good to hear from you to. So Al, what part of what I said do you think is unenlightened and steeped in moral darkness? Was it the part about sodomy? Would you rather I make it ok for you to jump in bed with your 16 year- old boyfriend Al? Or was it Planned Parenthood? Do you think behavior will change if we throw more money at it, and if we teach 5-year-olds how to put condoms on cucumbers in Kindergarten? Or maybe you we should allow butchers to rip 5 month old babies out of their mother's wombs because the child was an incovenience for her? Barbara Boxer's says that it's not a child until you bring it home from the hospital. Do you think that's a good definition? I think maybe what hit a nerve was the health care issue. If you can't get free meds for your mental condition, all hell breaks loose. Well I can understand that, certainly Al. heh, heh, bro, yeah real good to hear from you and here's a knife in the back while I smile all the way. You're not fooling anyone. It makes me sick, Al. Arthur : Re:If I were king : Arthur July 20, 2004, 08:19:34 AM Yes Marcia: I am concern about King Arthur and his Knights, with those types of rules he is planning to imposed, He might think Canada is an easy target. After all Canada is a mulicultural, that has two national languages that the government must serve in. Some of the other freedoms Canadians take for granted he plans to eliminated them. Well I guess Canada was a refuge for the slaves during the Civil War, and sanctuary for draft dodgers during the Vietnam War so I guess Canada will be flood with American Refugee's from King Arthur Kingdom . What do you think? One way or another Canada will be invaded/or affected. Lenore p.s. (AL) are you going to be Sir Lancelot? Oh Canada! Oh don't get me started. Oh yeah, you are SO multicultural and open-minded and lovers of freedom over there. A guy is free to hump another guy all he wants, but if someone were to, say, put an ad in a Canadian paper declaring that homosexuality is wrong and quoting verses from the Bible which state that it is wrong, he's going to end up in jail. Don't you see the hypocracy Lenore? I'm not making this story up, I wish I were. It actually happened in that great, freedom-loving country of Canada, and now that poor unfortunate soul is probably somebody's girlfriend in prison. Oh you're so free but the moment someone opens their mouth to say something contrary to the perverts' agenda, they are shut down immediately! Wake up, Lenore! Arthur : Re:If I were king : summer007 July 20, 2004, 08:58:15 AM Arthur, I think you've gone Mad...Anyway I'm glad about the Burka..geez can we still drive??? There would be alot of Death here in L.A. if you were GOD I mean King or Ruler, ha between the Gays and the Abortionsts would'nt be too many left...Oh and lets hope no one is ever (especially you)falsely accused and given a death sentance..oh yeah your probibly exempt...I'm very surprized your letting the woman live ...shocking!!! Remember if God had'nt left a remnant we'd all be as Sodem and Gommorah. Are You a Part of the Remnant???? You can't Fool God !!! Adious
: Re:If I were king : moonflower2 July 20, 2004, 09:04:59 AM No, no guarantees. People who were formerly on welfare will have to go out and look for jobs and work for a living, just like the rest of us who formerly supported them. Hunger is a good motivator. Oh King, live forever! Will you undo child labor laws? Mothers, whose husbands have left them can't make enough money to put food in their children's mouths and pay rent and pay for child care! Many have not the education to make more than the minimum wage. Will their children have to work to eat?? Even King Wencelas seemed kinder in this regard. ;) : Re:If I were king : Arthur July 20, 2004, 09:25:23 AM Arthur, I think you've gone Mad...Anyway I'm glad about the Burka..geez can we still drive??? There would be alot of Death here in L.A. if you were GOD I mean King or Ruler, ha between the Gays and the Abortionsts would'nt be too many left That's what they hope you believe, but actually the number of homosexuals in America is less than 3%. The number is growing since they push their agenda very hard, but people still aren't all that much for such perversity. Times may change... Similiar for abortionists, though the percentage is higher, still I wouldn't say it's even a majority (don't let the CNN polls fool ya). Furthermore, that number would drastically change when it became outlawed upon pain of death. Not because of the executions but because of fear for transgressing the law, as well they should for it is God's law as well, and with God the consequences are eternal. ...Oh and lets hope no one is ever (especially you)falsely accused and given a death sentence Again, another arguement touted by the left which holds no water. Do mistakes happen? Sure, but are you saying you'd rather let a man who raped and killed his 2-year-old niece live for 20 years while we hem and haw over whether or not he really did the deed when he sperm is in her and her blood is all over him? I'm very surprized your letting the woman live ...shocking!!! Remember if God had'nt left a remnant we'd all be as Sodem and Gommorah. Are You a Part of the Remnant???? You can't Fool God !!! Adious Oh please, I take some firm positions against obviously wicked things and people jump to the conclusion that I'm some nut. If you'll notice, I didn't say anything at all about infringing upon the rights of women, etc. I don't get it, especially on this board. I mean this kind of liberal nonsense I would expect on the "ex-Christian" website that David Mauldin was kind enough to tell us about. Are you guys so swayed and influenced by the prevailing winds of society that you actually believe what you are saying? Or maybe you haven't given it much thought. I'm guessing that maybe it wasn't all of what I wrote, just one point or another that you disagreed with and, clouded by your anger, you brand me a bad guy. Ok, take a step back, breathe, read it again and let's talk. Arthur : Re:If I were king : summer007 July 20, 2004, 09:43:34 AM Arthur, What do you expect from the World ???Realistically you don't think they're going to behave or ACT like Christians do you?? This is where you seen Naive or at the very least dishonest. I know you rfabricating your Kingdom. But if truth be told its very diffficult to see any difference between Christians and non-Christians these days. I know alot of sincere Christians and allow for human error butas we approach the Lords return we must remember Love covers a multitude of Sin. We will not win anyone over with our Hatred. Vengence is Gods alot will have Hell to pay thats for sure. Think of all the People Buying their Stairway to Heaven....(instead of doing what their told to do )...
: Re:If I were king : Arthur July 20, 2004, 09:43:39 AM Oh King, live forever! Will you undo child labor laws? Mothers, whose husbands have left them can't make enough money to put food in their children's mouths and pay rent and pay for child care! Many have not the education to make more than the minimum wage. Will their children have to work to eat?? Even King Wencelas seemed kinder in this regard. ;) You bring up a good point. The men who leave their wives and family to fend for themselves are no good bastards. This is a difficult issue. In times past, the government would not need to step into such a situation. There existed sufficient social mores that would shame a man into not doing such a thing. Today, primarily due to the rise of feminism, men think that they don't have to protect or provide for their families--they're just roommates on equal footing after all. See how liberal thinking is destroying America? This is not something I could easily fix. I would need a society that's better and has better morals than what we have today. Of course, once I take over, morals would immediately improve and in time men wouldn't dare leave their families. But in the meantime some things I may try would be to start by making a divorce harder to obtain. Also, I would make negligence of family needs (i.e. a man leaving his family) criminally prosecutable depending on the circumstances. His punishment would be that he would have to live with his mother-in-law one week for every day gone :) just kidding. These for starters, I'd have to give a problem like this much thought. Good question. I am kind, I would not let the children starve as you were so quick to accuse me of. Arthur : Re:If I were king : Arthur July 20, 2004, 09:51:01 AM Arthur, What do you expect from the World ???Realistically you don't think they're going to behave or ACT like Christians do you?? This is where you seen Naive or at the very least dishonest. I know you rfabricating your Kingdom. But if truth be told its very diffficult to see any difference between Christians and non-Christians these days. I know alot of sincere Christians and allow for human error butas we approach the Lords return we must remember Love covers a multitude of Sin. We will not win anyone over with our Hatred. Vengence is Gods alot will have Hell to pay thats for sure. Think of all the People Buying their Stairway to Heaven....(instead of doing what their told to do )... Ah I see where you are coming from. This isn't hatred or even grumpiness. This is sobriety. I'm calling it like I see it. No, I don't expect all the world to act like Christians. Sexual perversion, deception, etc. are all the norm for a lost world ruled by the evil one--it's not called the kingdom of darkness for nothing. I was just sitting at the table the other night, thinking about all the evil in the world and I decided that I'd sit down and write how I think a country should be run. It was a great way to let off steam. I know that my way will never happen and it doesn't bother me. It does bother me that disgusting wickedness such as sodomy and abortion just to name a couple are being perpetrated and even embraced in this country and world-wide. These things should bother Christians. God hates it. But we know that Jesus is coming soon. We need a good king to straighten things out. Well, he's the great king over all the earth, and when he comes he will rule with a rod of iron and righteousness shall be the law of the land. He will reward each man according to his deeds. He is my only hope in the face of such wickedness sweeping humanity to the pit of hell. But it is the only hope I need and what a hope it is! Arthur : Re:If I were king : sfortescue July 20, 2004, 09:58:08 AM One reason Churchill was grumpy was that Hitler was bombing London with remote controlled radar guided bombs. A book that my father gave me more than 20 years ago, The Wizard War, by R. V. Jones, tells about the British scientific intelligence during WWII. R. V. Jones was Churchill's scientific advisor and the Head of Scientific Intelligence during the war. They had to figure out the guidance systems of the various types of bombs in order to keep most of them from hitting central London.
Hey Arthur, you haven't yet given any answer to my point about why deregulated health care doesn't work. Also, you haven't said anything about how you would protect the poor from being taken advantage of by crooked big businesses. : Re:If I were king : summer007 July 20, 2004, 10:01:19 AM But you Beloved build yourselves up in your most Holy Faith. Jude seems to have it straight...This was nothing new under the sun...Soon you can Rule and Reign with a Rod of Iron..Then you can break them in pieces like a Potters Vessel...Ps.2 This is if you persevere which requires mucho Patience...Glad your getting it...I thought you went Bloody Mad there Arthur you seemed so rational in your 'Arthurs Story'. The Government is on His Shoulders.
: Re:If I were king : Arthur July 20, 2004, 10:22:21 AM One reason Churchill was grumpy was that Hitler was bombing London with remote controlled radar guided bombs. A book that my father gave me more than 20 years ago, The Wizard War, by R. V. Jones, tells about the British scientific intelligence during WWII. R. V. Jones was Churchill's scientific advisor and the Head of Scientific Intelligence during the war. They had to figure out the guidance systems of the various types of bombs in order to keep most of them from hitting central London. Hi Stephen, thanks for reminding me. So are you saying that they were able to steer the bombs away from their targets somehow? If so how? Hey Arthur, you haven't yet given any answer to my point about why deregulated health care doesn't work. I think I'll have to refer to my advisor on this one. :) The health care issue is pretty complicated isn't it? Here are some thoughts. 100 years ago or so it was not as complicated nor as expensive. Why? Well for one thing, most doctors were general practitioners or family doctors--and they didn't get paid all that much. Of course, they didn't have to rake up a $100,000 medical school debt either. For another, medical science wasn't as advanced and hadn't branched out into all of what we know today, each field now having highly-specialized doctors who are demanding highly-priced fees. And the biggie, back then lawyers weren't given the free reign to wage malpractice suits as they are today. So what would I do? 1. Eliminate malpractice suits. If you're going to let a man operate on you, you'd better know he's good or it's you're own fault. In times past, people either lived with the mistakes doctors made, or shot their doctors. 2. I don't believe that everyone has the right to affordable health care. Sometimes in life, poopie happens. We have to deal with it. It builds character to overcome obstacles. If you can find a doctor that will fix you up, great! If not, don't go whining to the government. People think of the government like God. It's supposed to be there to make sure you are comfortable and don’t have any problems. That's not reality. So my government would not provide any health care. Should people trust in government or in God? 3. I would look into a way to decrease the cost of medical schools. Make it a public service maybe, share the wealth of knowledge for king and country--have a royal academy. 4. I think general practitioners still have their place in society. My government would make things easy on them Also, you haven't said anything about how you would protect the poor from being taken advantage of by crooked big businesses. Crooked businesses, big or small would be punished. They wouldn't get away with it in my country. I detest such things and there's no way I would allow it. Arthur PS, if you want more specifics on these, give me an example or ask further questions. : Re:If I were king : Arthur July 20, 2004, 10:29:19 AM But you Beloved build yourselves up in your most Holy Faith. Jude seems to have it straight...This was nothing new under the sun...Soon you can Rule and Reign with a Rod of Iron..Then you can break them in pieces like a Potters Vessel...Ps.2 This is if you persevere which requires mucho Patience...Glad your getting it...I thought you went Bloody Mad there Arthur you seemed so rational in your 'Arthurs Story'. The Government is on His Shoulders. :) I'm not some megalomaniac bent on conquest and power. I'm just one small fry who can't do anything about the world around him but likes to dream :) Yes, I so look forward to the day when the wrongs will be righted. And I thank GOD the government is not on my shoulders but on his. In the meantime, I think it's right that I stand for what he says is right as best I can. Arthur : Re:If I were king : summer007 July 20, 2004, 10:44:10 AM Favorite quote of Winston Churchill "Never,never, never, Give-up".....222.
: Re:If I were king : outdeep July 20, 2004, 06:22:06 PM Some thoughts:
-sodomy: outlawed, penalty death While I am against sodomy, I don't like the implication of the police being able to check out what I am doing in my bedroom. -abortion: outlawed, penalty death Let's figure out a way to help both the woman and the baby. The woman has legitimate needs (and may be in a hostile environment where her boyfriend is pressuring her to have an abortion). The issue with the "pro-choice" crowd is that they only want it one way. death row: eliminated--death penalty to be carried out within 30 days of sentence. If this is the case, you have to figure out how to make sure there are no mistakes. Part of the issue why death penalty takes so long is the appeal process. At times, this process turns up legitimate mistakes. Also, you will have to deal with the issue that poor black murderers (with court appointed lawyers) end up on death row far more often than better-off white murders who have good lawyers. -welfare: eliminated I think there are legitimate victems. The trick here is to help those who are truly victems and transition them to be self sufficient. Not everyone who is poor is a victem - some are self inflicted though continual poor and self-limiting choices. Handing out money and services indescriminatly doesn't help in the long run. Allow religious and local groups to take up some of the slack. -equal opportunity: eliminated Two people getting paid the same for the same job is a good thing. I don't think a woman should get paid less for doing my job if she is just as capable. -ACLU: eliminated Agreed. Their primary objective seems to be to eradicate God from society (it's telling that they eliminated the cross from the county of LA seal, but left the pagan diety symbol). -planned parenthood: eliminated Amen. They're just a front for the abortion industry. -public schools K-12: eliminated At least allow parents to have a choice. Our values are not as unified as they used to be. We don't all want to raise our kids as secular materialists. -illegal immigrants: immediately deported I do understand the sediment though I do waver on this one. After all, we did kind of take California from Mexico and they provide a needed service (cheap labor) that would have been done by our kids had we not aborted them. On the other hand, we do need to have some policy that is applied fairly and consistantly. -public services in multiple languages: eliminated - English only Yes. But, have a transitional plan for older children who may be able to learn in their language while they are learning English. -health care: deregulated, no government interference whatsoever I would add that insurance should just be for catostrophic expenses, not for every doctor visit. This way, the private doctor, not insurance, can prescribe the cure. Encourage the private sector to have medical savings so people could afford larger doctor bills. -income tax: flat tax rate of 10%, if necessary I'm not sure of the implications of this one. -if a government bureau is inefficient, the department head gets canned and a new one is put in his place until it gets efficient. After I'm through, the government will be about 90% smaller than it is now. Yes, I think we have to get back to the question, "what is the purpose for government?" Is it really the government's job to enforce motorcycle helmets, place adoptions, make sure everyone has a retirement fund, give money to the poor, etc.? Or are there many things that the private sector, local organizations and/or religious organizations do better? The original vision for government was very limited. Thank Roosevelt (as good of a President as he was in many ways) and Johnson for opening government up to be the monster that it is today. -any court of law that tries to legislate instead of interpret the law gets the boot Absolutely. It's getting kind of rediculous, isn't it? -any nationwide news service that instead of printing facts prints opinion and advocacy for a cause anywhere other than the editorial page gets fined 25% of their yearly income each week until they cease and desist. Tough to enforce. Why will be the final arbitrator? Government? True freedom of the press means anyone can print what they want. However, the founding father's had no way to envision these large media conglomorations. They problem to solve is to encourage these alternative media sources - Fox News, blogs, World magazine are a good start. -I'd tell the U.N. that we are a sovereign nation and not under their control whatsoever. We may cooperate with them if in our best interest. Good idea. -Deal with tenor on the University campuses so that there may be a more diversity of thought instead of the outgowth of grown-up hippies who hate everything about the country that provided so much for them. -Give press time to real, thoughtful political experts - not spoiled hollywood comedians and actors who live in a bubble and are in love with what they want to make America into. -Distribute the book "Michael Moore is a stupid white man" at every showing of "Farenheit 9/11". -Just for the record, I don't want to be king. I have a hard enough time keeping my own life in order. : Re:If I were king : lenore July 20, 2004, 10:03:01 PM Yes Marcia: I am concern about King Arthur and his Knights, with those types of rules he is planning to imposed, He might think Canada is an easy target. After all Canada is a mulicultural, that has two national languages that the government must serve in. Some of the other freedoms Canadians take for granted he plans to eliminated them. Well I guess Canada was a refuge for the slaves during the Civil War, and sanctuary for draft dodgers during the Vietnam War so I guess Canada will be flood with American Refugee's from King Arthur Kingdom . What do you think? One way or another Canada will be invaded/or affected. Lenore p.s. (AL) are you going to be Sir Lancelot? Oh Canada! Oh don't get me started. Oh yeah, you are SO multicultural and open-minded and lovers of freedom over there. A guy is free to hump another guy all he wants, but if someone were to, say, put an ad in a Canadian paper declaring that homosexuality is wrong and quoting verses from the Bible which state that it is wrong, he's going to end up in jail. Don't you see the hypocracy Lenore? I'm not making this story up, I wish I were. It actually happened in that great, freedom-loving country of Canada, and now that poor unfortunate soul is probably somebody's girlfriend in prison. Oh you're so free but the moment someone opens their mouth to say something contrary to the perverts' agenda, they are shut down immediately! Wake up, Lenore! Arthur I am not for the gays rights. I dont agree with their choices in life, I especially dont agree that a gay minister of parliament, put forth a private members bill , and the senate pass it making hate literature illegal, which can include the Bible. I agree Canada is a very dark place re Christianity, that they are sending missionary from Africa to enlighten the country about Christ. Especially when town of just over 7500 has so many churches that you would think this town is on fire for Christ. Who am I , I am not without sin, to be able to cast the first stone. You know Arthur: Just like Sodom and Gomorrha, the time is riping for God to destroy the earth. I know these are signs that will indicate that the time is drawing so near. I welcome the time when God will grace the earth. These signs of darkness must come to usher in the era of the AntiChrist. Why are we so surprised that it is here. I hear when Middle East is in so much turmoil, that people pray for peace in the Middle East, which is rightful so to do. But in the back of my mind, is that this is necessary to usher in Jesus's reign on earth. So I pray , let me ready Lord for your return. There is nothing I can do to stop government from making these stupid rules. I sign the petitions and written to my member of parliament, and I exercise my right to vote, so I can consciously rightfully complain when the government does something displeasing. If you dont vote, dont complain. If a gay man, repents and practice celebracy. Would you still have him executed. Arthur: A lot of the King Arthur's rules: There was one thing missing . COMPASSION. WHERE IS YOUR COMPASSION. I am on welfare, I am a single mother I raised two girls working part time jobs. I am not trying to seek disability for mood disorder. In this small town there are no jobs except part time jobs, which pays only minimum wage. It is not enough to support myself, let alone a family. I dont drive, so I have to work in town, where walking distance is a must. I have to have medication for my antidepressives, which without a government welfare drug card, would cost me $100 a month. I live in social housing, I pay gas heating, hydro, water, plus my phone. including groceries, cleaning supplies, hygienic supplies and my furry family members needs. I also have debts. Last month I only received $368.00 per month to live on. It is no pleasure ride on welfare.Ontario Works. Being on welfare is emotionally bankrupt and financially bankrupt. I have volunteered with in the community and with in my church. You are probably going to say, I am trying to justify my reasoning. But if there was a full time office job outthere somewhere, where I can gained the skills, usefullness, confidence and acceptance. I will be glad to accept. Arthur. You told me to wake up. There is nothing I can do about this country policies. But I think Arthur you need a reality check, of fact that there are people out there that need compassion and understanding. This why I asked you about some of your rules. Are there going to be jobs out there to have. Your King Arthur's kingdom is not realitic and human demeaning. With out expections in life. There is no COMPASSION. LENORE : Re:If I were king : delila July 21, 2004, 02:13:57 AM Dear Arthur,
Please set me straight on this: is it true Americans drink Coke for breakfast? delila : Re:If I were king : moonflower2 July 21, 2004, 08:49:30 AM Dear Arthur, Please set me straight on this: is it true Americans drink Coke for breakfast? delila In the summer, and only the fruity flavored ones. :) : Re:If I were king : moonflower2 July 21, 2004, 09:00:43 AM King Arthur,
In OT times, the rapists could be killed. What do you think is NT teaching on this issue? Personally, I'd have no problem purchasing a rifle and shooting them in an instant, especially when babies are involved. One of your peasants, willing to serve in your vigilante corps. : Re:If I were king : lenore July 22, 2004, 03:18:15 AM :): I agree that any man who rapes a baby/child doesnt deserve life he is living.
He should be immediate castrated prior to the death sentence. In the Bible , have you notice MOONFLOWER even in the new testament when those men brought the prostitute to Jesus , asked Jesus if they should stone her. Remember Jesus reply. I always wondered why was the men she was making her trade with, why weren't they also brought before Jesus to receive the same death sentence. I can't remember in the old testament, if the man was equally held accountable for adultery as the woman. Even in countries today, especially Muslim world, it is the woman who suffers the death sentence for having an affair with a man, but the man doesnt get that type of death sentence for being with the woman who was executed. I think rapists, of both women, and children should be castrated. It just shows even in 21st century, doesnt matter if it is in America, Canada, Europe, Africa, Asia, Middle East, Far East, South America, etc. The value of women and children are still seen as disposable. This world hasnt really advance anymore than the bible times in this, has it. The Baby Boom and Generation X, etc, are suppose to be an enlightened generation. A generation with so much knowledge, so many choices, so many freedoms, so many rights. Yet when criminal, wickedness behaviour like raping a child/baby, or even an elderly woman of 80-90 + year old. I can never understand that type of mentally. I know it is an issue of control, an issue of mental depravity. But what is going on to have such vicious vengeous against babies and elderly, the vulnerable. Maybe I just hit on the answer the vulnerable. A coward who can only prey on the vulnerable . Canada doesnt have the death penalty. I was told one time by some one who did hard time in Provincial Penitentary, that the have separate rapist and murderers of children, because the prisoners have a moral code of their own. That the other prisoners would kill a child killer and rapist. There is a man now, who must be guarded around the clock, be in solitary confinement because of the brutality he kidnapped and raped and killed two teenage girls. Canadian Government is paying for this prisoner to spend the rest of his life without parole in prison. Because of prisoner rights, this time I have no compassion for this man. He has never repented. I say leave the prisoner gates open , and let the prisoners serve their own justice for those girls. I know some argue about all those abortions that have occurred since abortion became legal in both of our countries. but those babies are in Jesus arms, and have been spared the viciousness of abusiveness at the hands of men , that have no moral conscious. Moonflower go after those rapist, protect those babies. I believe your anger is righteous anger. : Re:If I were king : Arthur July 23, 2004, 03:10:47 AM re: sodomy
God hates it, the good kings wiped it out. God himself wiped it out when he utterly destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. I agree that I wouldn't want police coming into my home and bedroom or anyone else's for that matter. Privacy is a good thing, and I'd make sure people would have theirs, but much as it is today where police can invade a home if they have a search warrant, as sodomy would be illegal, I would allow them the right to break down the doors and arrest the perverts. Perhaps what I'd do is this--as soon as I came into power, I'd have a meeting like that of Jehu. I'll send a proclamation throughout the land saying that we'll be having a gay orgy...I mean convention... Everyone who anyone that considers themselves to be gay or lesbian needs to be there. "Clinton served homosexuality a little, I will serve it much." I will tell them. Then, once they're all in the compound, I'll either drop a nuke or have soliders with mini's mow em down. "And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel. I Kings 14:24 And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father. And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made. I Kings 15:11-12 And the king stood by a pillar, and made a covenant before the LORD, to walk after the LORD, and to keep his commandments and his testimonies and his statutes with all their heart and all their soul, to perform the words of this covenant that were written in this book. And all the people stood to the covenant....And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove. I Kings 23:3,7" Arthur : Re:If I were king : Arthur July 23, 2004, 03:15:40 AM King Arthur, In OT times, the rapists could be killed. What do you think is NT teaching on this issue? Personally, I'd have no problem purchasing a rifle and shooting them in an instant, especially when babies are involved. One of your peasants, willing to serve in your vigilante corps. Yeah, shoot the bastard. I'll make you the head of the Women Avenging Rapist Bastards Corp. Arthur : Re:If I were king : Arthur July 23, 2004, 03:17:51 AM Dear Arthur, Please set me straight on this: is it true Americans drink Coke for breakfast? delila Dear Delila, I don't think so. These days most do Starbucks. Rare has been the occasion that I'd have a soft drink in the AM. Arthur P.S. Why do you ask? : Re:If I were king : Arthur July 23, 2004, 03:36:34 AM Who am I , I am not without sin, to be able to cast the first stone. What is that supposed to mean? You can still condemn sodomy and anyone who practises it. You should condemn them! Not all sin is the same and not every person is the same. As the redeemed, we have forsaken the wicked works of darkness. Yes, we understand it is by his mercy that we were redeemed, not of our own merit. Saved from what? God's wrath? Why were we under his wrath? For our actions. What actions? The same godless actions that the lost practise to this day. If God hates it, so should we, as his blood-bought people. You know Arthur: Just like Sodom and Gomorrha, the time is riping for God to destroy the earth. I know these are signs that will indicate that the time is drawing so near. I welcome the time when God will grace the earth. These signs of darkness must come to usher in the era of the AntiChrist. Why are we so surprised that it is here. Yes, and no surprise here. I don't accept it as normal or ok though. Sodomy is an abomination. There is nothing I can do to stop government from making these stupid rules. I sign the petitions and written to my member of parliament, and I exercise my right to vote, so I can consciously rightfully complain when the government does something displeasing. If you dont vote, dont complain. Same here, nothing I can do. I do vote, but it's meaningless. The representatives that we elect don't care about the people. For example, on the gay marriage issue that came before the senate, there has never been so many calls, letters, emails in the history of the U.S. that came into senators from concerned citizens about this issue. And 500 to 1 it was in favor of making a bill to protect marriage. BUT, did the senators listen to the people? Heck no! They voted according to whichever lobby/special interest had them in their pocket. If a gay man, repents and practice celebracy. Would you still have him executed. No, I would not have him executed. If he repents, then he'd be set free of course. But if does it again, i.e. no true repentance, he's dead. COMPASSION. WHERE IS YOUR COMPASSION. I am on welfare, I am a single mother I raised two girls working part time jobs. I am not trying to seek disability for mood disorder. In this small town there are no jobs except part time jobs, which pays only minimum wage. It is not enough to support myself, let alone a family. I dont drive, so I have to work in town, where walking distance is a must. I have to have medication for my antidepressives, which without a government welfare drug card, would cost me $100 a month. I live in social housing, I pay gas heating, hydro, water, plus my phone. including groceries, cleaning supplies, hygienic supplies and my furry family members needs. I also have debts. Last month I only received $368.00 per month to live on. It is no pleasure ride on welfare.Ontario Works. Being on welfare is emotionally bankrupt and financially bankrupt. I have volunteered with in the community and with in my church. You are probably going to say, I am trying to justify my reasoning. But if there was a full time office job outthere somewhere, where I can gained the skills, usefullness, confidence and acceptance. I will be glad to accept. Arthur. You told me to wake up. There is nothing I can do about this country policies. But I think Arthur you need a reality check, of fact that there are people out there that need compassion and understanding. This why I asked you about some of your rules. Are there going to be jobs out there to have. Your King Arthur's kingdom is not realitic and human demeaning. With out expections in life. There is no COMPASSION. LENORE Lenore, I have compassion. If I were king and you were to come to me with your story, I help you out. As king I couldn't fix every persons individual problem, but I'd do my best. Also, as I've mentioned, after I'd get these reforms in place, situations like yours would be the exception and not the rule. Your husband wouldn't have left you, or if he had died your church would help you out. (That's what they are supposed to do, look after the widows, unless you remarry and depending on your age and behavior). Some questions, what happened to your husband? Is he dead? divorced? Was there a court order for him to pay child support? Is he paying child support? Does your church help you? friends? family? And if things had turned out differently you might not need to take pills for depression, because you wouldn't be depressed. Arthur : Re:If I were king : Joe Sperling July 23, 2004, 05:19:09 AM If I were King of the Forest,
Not Queen, not Duke, not Prince My regal robes of the Forest Would be satin, not cotton, not chintz I'd command each thing, be it fish or fowl with a woof and a woof and a royal growl--woof! As I'd click my heel and the trees would kneel And the mountains bow and the bulls kowtow And the sparrow would take wing F---I--f---I were king. Each rabbit would show respect to me The chipmunks genuflect to me. Though my tail would lash I would show compash For every underling... F---I---f----I were King... Just King. It's good to be the King. : Re:If I were king : al Hartman July 23, 2004, 05:42:01 AM If I were King of the Forest, Not Queen, not Duke, not Prince My regal robes of the Forest Would be satin, not cotton, not chintz I'd command each thing, be it fish or fowl with a woof and a woof and a royal growl--woof! As I'd click my heel and the trees would kneel And the mountains bow and the bulls kowtow And the sparrow would take wing F---I--f---I were king. Each rabbit would show respect to me The chipmunks genuflect to me. Though my tail would lash I would show compash For every underling... F---I---f----I were King... Just King. It's good to be the King. Alas, Joe, where is Bert Lahr when we need him? ??? al ;) : Re:If I were king : summer007 July 23, 2004, 11:31:32 AM Oh King, Hast Thou forgotton the Oil, the precious fuel that fills our SUV's ? And that most of it comes from Saudi. You said you'd do what is in our best interests. And most of the Oil Rich are Muslim. What will ye do do to make us Energy efficient and please dont mention our scant reserves or Alaska. Thank-You Your Highness.
: Re:If I were king : Arthur July 23, 2004, 12:08:23 PM The technology for hydrogen fuel cells is here. All we need is for filling stations to become as numerous as gas stations.
The middle east can return back to their 9th century ways once the money stops flowing in. But let's say hypothetically that we are still dependent upon oil. When you mentioned the scant reserves in Alaska, are you referring to our current developments or the untouched oil fields that we are not using because some idiot liberals are concerned for the caribou? It probably would improve the ecology but they're diseased mind can't reason so don't bother explaining it to them. As for the middle east, if we were still dependent upon oil, the middle east would become a colony of the USA. Arthur : Re:If I were king : summer007 July 23, 2004, 12:40:36 PM A take-over just as I suspected! But what if they similtaniously blew-up all their gas stations here first? The way they've set the oil fields afire in the mid-east. You know they're planning something. Also doing dry-runs and probes at all the major airports as reported 7/21/04 on CNN. Are you prepared for Suicidal/Homicidal Holy-Wars???Can you protect your loyal subjects???
: Re:If I were king : d3z July 23, 2004, 09:20:57 PM The technology for hydrogen fuel cells is here. All we need is for filling stations to become as numerous as gas stations. The middle east can return back to their 9th century ways once the money stops flowing in. I'm curious where you got this idea? Numerous problems, including storage, have not been solved satisfactorily. All this aside, there is still the main problem with most people's understanding of hydrogen as fuel. Hydrogen is not a source of energy, at least not on the earth. Almost all of our hydrogen is already tighly bound with other atoms. To use it as a fuel, energy must be put in. It isn't all that much different that a battery, except less convenient to store. Currently, the best ways to make it are either from fossil fuels directly, or using electricity (most of which is produced from fossil fuel). Given that hydrogen is so difficult to store, it is probably better to use something such as compressed natural gas. Natural gas can be synthesized nearly as easily as hydrogen, making it a reasonable energy store. Plus, it is much easier to work with. The US would have to more than double its electricity production capacity in order to produce enough hydrogen to run the automobiles in the country. Unless these power plants were all nuclear, we would still be dependent on the same fossil fuels. : Re:If I were king : summer007 July 23, 2004, 09:54:58 PM Yes, as soon as I read, "All we need is..." I knew the King was in trouble. Seems like a problem that could take 20 to 30 years to iron out. And forget elec cars they'd shut down the grids and they only go 90 to 94 miles before needing to be re-charged along with 5 to 7 months waiting lists,due to limited production and these are two seaters(leave the kids at home) Oh and Leases only at about 400 to 500 per month. The Prius is probibly better running on gas and elec charged from the engine. Yet again a long waiting list. I've test driven the Prius. Its not bad. Yet I'd probibly never lease. Also Mechanics have been electricuted by these types of cars. So alot of things are still in the works.Everyone seems to have some Grand Idea, but nothing happens. We are just as Dependent on the Muslim Oil Producing Countries as ever. They know we'd try to take them over in a Heart-beat. Its all about the Oil or the Golden Rule...He who has the Gold makes the Rules!!!
: Re:If I were king : Arthur July 23, 2004, 11:11:21 PM http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage761.html
http://www.h2cars.biz/artman/publish/article_558.shtml Earlier this year GM drove a H2 car 9,696 kilometers from Norway to Portugal. The car can travel 300 miles without refueling. Of course, they had to carry the fuel with them since there are no Hydrogen fueling stations, ergo my previous statement. In regards to the energy required to manufacture the hydrogen, yes I'd put up a lot more nuclear plants around the U.S. The technology for nuclear energy has made tremendous advances and there's really no reason not to employ it other than for the ignorance-imposed negative stigma associated with it. Arthur : Re:If I were king : Arthur July 23, 2004, 11:24:41 PM A take-over just as I suspected! But what if they similtaniously blew-up all their gas stations here first? The way they've set the oil fields afire in the mid-east. You know they're planning something. Also doing dry-runs and probes at all the major airports as reported 7/21/04 on CNN. Are you prepared for Suicidal/Homicidal Holy-Wars???Can you protect your loyal subjects??? Unlike the current government, I wouldn't let politcal correctness stop me from protecting our citizens from danger. Check out this article about one woman's experience on Northwest Airlines flight #327 from Detroit to Los Angeles. It's highly alarming! http://www.womenswallstreet.com/WWS/article_landing.aspx?titleid=1&articleid=711 and the followup article http://www.womenswallstreet.com/WWS/article_landing.aspx?titleid=1&articleid=716 14 middle eastern men board the airplane and make frequent visits to the airplane bathroom in succession, communicate with each other in arabic, congregate in small groups--and they're not arrested?! They're not arrested because the airplane companies are afraid of being sued, because the trial lawyers (such as VP running mate Edwards) are drunk on their own power and have never been stopped from gaining millions of dollars by breaking the backs of companies over ridiculous charges. I would put a stop to that, and any group of middle-eastern men boarding a plane would be detained. Similar for any other possible act of terrorism. In the 1940's after Pearl Harbor was bombed, Japaneese were put in concentration camps in California. Today, the children of those who did it condemn their fathers for racism, etc. But I say that wasn't such a bad idea. We're at war, if some people get uncomfortable in the process of ensuring the saftey of the nation, too bad. Arthur : Re:If I were king : moonflower2 July 24, 2004, 12:25:15 AM Oh, King, live forever!
Have you heard about the "L" that operates in the Chicago area? It is run by electricity and gets the job done for many, many commuters. You could extend the lines out to the far suburbs of any metropolis. I also believe that Commonwealth Edison, the company responsible for electricity in the Midwest, is more dependent on nuclear energy than fossil fuel. I'll check and let you know how we progressive Midwesterners are handling the situation and get back to you. WARB Corp. Captain : Re:If I were king : summer007 July 24, 2004, 12:35:19 AM Arthur, Thanks thats the Story I was referring too. I had walked in in the middle of the broadcast so I missed alot of it. Amazing it seems they could have easily overpowered the plane and any Air-Marshalls aboard. With all the discrimation regulations it no wonder they think Americans are so Stupid. They know these Terrorists are around they are trained to blend in, have families, dress American,etc. Its interesting when the one guy walks by and says NO..as his finger glides across the mans neck..technical difficulty? maybe. They're around. Remember the Egyptian flight the Pilot yelling Allah as it crashed. that was a suicide flight. I'm less than 10 miles from LAX. So in essence they're in the Neighborhood hey. Just blending in until they strike and they will.
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