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Sondra came to this BB to, in her own words, "clear her good name"; that someone had said she was an adulteress. (See SWTB)

1.Did we really think that she was an adulteress?

2.Has our opinion of her, if negative before, changed since her "visit" to this board?

Keep those little tummies full!!

http://www.zoomed.com/html/canned_reptile_foods.php

http://www.arab.net/camels/

Behaviour
  Camels have the reputation of being bad-tempered and obstinate creatures who spit and kick.IN REALITY, they tend to be good-tempered, patient and intelligent.  

http://www.lib.niu.edu/ipo/oi000219.html

Bobcats Thriving in Illinois

Illinois' bobcat population has gone from threatened to thriving, according to a story by Paula Davenport of Southern Illinois University's Office of Public Affairs. Davenport's story is based on a study by wildlife experts at SIU's Cooperative Wildlife Research Laboratory.

"Bobcats are even more abundant and far healthier than we suspected," says Alan Woolf, director of the laboratory. "It's surprising how well they're doing in a human-dominated landscape." Bobcat sightings in the northern portion of Illinois went from 70 in 1992 to 216 in 1998. Sightings in the state's southern third were even higher, going from 98 in 1992 to 425 in 1998. Although the figures convinced state officials to remove bobcats from Illinois' threatened species list in 1999, hunting, trapping and the keeping of bobcats is still prohibited.

Woolf says such protections, enacted in 1972, are helping bobcats rebound in a big way.

During the study, which was funded by the Department of Natural Resources' federal aid to wildlife restoration dollars, Woolf and his staff staked out a 400-square-mile area in Union and Jackson counties, where bobcats are abundant. With the help of more than 50 landowners and 15 volunteer trappers, cages were set out and foothold traps baited with road kill. Researchers then waited for elusive bobcats to show up. Captured bobcats were weighed, measured and checked for health problems.

Of the 99 bobcats captured, 76 were fitted with radio collars, giving scientists a chance to track their movements and learn more about their lifestyles over a two-year period. A year's tracking data shows 80 percent of the bobcats survived. Of the 14 fatalities, seven deaths involved collisions with autos, two with trains, two in traps, two by unknown causes and one by a natural cause.

Other finds revealed that young male bobcats stick close to mom for the first year or two. Then they wander off and establish individual territories. Four of five young males moved to new territories more than 70 miles away from where they were born. Most adult bobcats stay within their established home ranges. Only three bobcats moved to new digs, probably because a neighbor died or a more dominant individual displaced them.

Researchers are now trying to learn the various landscape components that make for the best bobcat habitat. That knowledge will lead to better estimates of bobcat numbers throughout Illinois and will help scientists better predict how development, farming and other land uses affect populations. "In the early '80s, bobcats were virtually thought to be absent from the agricultural Midwest," says Woolf. "This is a critter that's rebounded pretty well. And they don't need a lot from us. They just need a little bit of habitat."

Bobcats Facts
Size:Adult males average 25 pounds, while adult females average 15.
Home range: Adult males occupy a 36-square mile territory, while adult females live in a 12-square-mile area.
Breeding: Two to four kittens are born in dens in caves, hollow trees or barns. Kittens are reared by their mother. Male kittens between the ages of 1 and 2 venture off to stake out their own territories.
Diet: Bobcats mainly hunt mice, voles squirrels, rabbits and entrails left by deer hunters.
Life expectancy: Up to 12 years , although under optimal conditions, bobcats could live 15 to 20 years. 


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http://www.desertusa.com/april96/du_bcat.html

Habits

Despite its pussycat appearance when seen in repose, the Bobcat is quite fierce and is equipped to kill animals as large as deer. When living near a ranch, it may take lambs, poultry and even young pigs. However, food habit studies have shown Bobcats subsist on a diet of rabbits, ground squirrels, mice, pocket gophers and wood rats. Quail have been found in bobcat stomachs, but predation by bobcats does not harm healthy game populations.

http://www.turtlesale.com/food1.html

ITEM: Freeze Dried Earthworms
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Freeze Dried Earthworms

Earthworms (Lumbricus terrestris) are an important prey item for many semi-aquatic and terrestrial amphibians and reptiles. Earthworms provide a ready source of important protein and essential amino acids and are readily accepted by many different amphibians and reptiles. Although live earthworms may be available in some commercial markets, they can be expensive and have a limited shelf life. Fluker Laboratories realizes the importance of providing your pet amphibian or reptile a diverse diet to increase the overall nutritional value being offered to the animal and reduce the likelihood of developing life-threatening nutritional disease. Fluker Laboratories freeze-dried earthworms are a high protein prey source that can be offered to semi-aquatic and terrestrial amphibians and reptiles.

Moon,

I have read that there is a difference in temperament between dromedarys, (camels with one hump) and bactrians, (camels with two humps).  When I lived in Turkey they were fairly common, mainly dromedarys.  What I have read says the bactrians are much milder in temperament.

In Egypt I saw camel drivers using a braided leather whip to "drive" them.  The handle end of the whip was about 24 inches long, covered with leather, and had a good sized rock or piece of metal on the end, covered as well.  I think that was for persuading camels.  Maybe bad treatment makes them mean.

I can remember seeing some wearing muzzles so they couldn't bite.  During the spring the Turks used to put two males in a corral near a female, then bet on the outcome of the ensuing fight.  Sometimes you see older male camels with big patches of skin sewn up.  The skin is quite thick and after a certain age doesn't heal well, so they just sew 'em up and put em back to work.

They are really strong.  I have seen them carry two or three tree trunks weighing several hundred pounds.

Thomas Maddux

Midwestern Islamic Bobcats seen riding Turkish Camels.
Classy Arabian camel seen in gutter after Bobcat attack.
No natural preditors/affinities for bobcats. Camels threatened.
Camels may move south. Bobcat bagging legal there.

http://capitolwatch.reallouisiana.com/html/2801E863-CA97-4BC4-B1B3-E95AEF38EE13.shtml

SAVE OUR CAMELS!!

Contributions to control aberrant bobcat activity can be made at:

http://www.welovecamels.com

All this information is nearly overwhelming!

I've been trying to digest & condense it into a manageable summary of facts, and have come up with this:

1.  Camels and bobcats can both get worms.

2.  A hungry bobcat can get a camel.

3.  Given time, worms will get the camels and the bobcats.

4.  Anyone working for National Wildlife Magazine who submitted the
     contents of this thread for publication, could get canned.

al ;)

Al, move to the front of the class.  ;D

You will receive an illustrated book of bobcat kittens that will melt your lovable heart. Available at no cost to you!

http://www.bobcatandlynx.com/bobcatgallery.html

And for any cat-haters out there: Don't be a Pharisee! Save a wildcat!

http://www.bobcatandlynx.com/pricelist.html

Even better, send large contributions to: www.thomasmadduxpocket.com

Thomas maddux

See there: You DID learn something in those workers meetings! ::)

al

Flushed him out, didn't I?  ;)

http://www.bugspray.com/article/bobcat.html

Here is a greener way: LIVING WITH BOBCATS:

http://www.projectwildlife.org/living-bobcats.htm

     

                 "America's one of the finest countries anyone ever stole."

      --Bobcat Goldthwaite
 

Don't feed 'em. They've got their own food source.

Does this poll have a productive purpose?

If so, please explain...  I'm afraid I'm missing the point.

Thanks,
al

Making a point. Depends on who and how many vote if it's going to be statistically significant.

OK-- thanks for explaining.  None of the choices really says what I think, so I abstained from the vote.

al

Oh, but I can edit it and add another option. What would you like me to add?

Nah-- wouldn't be fair to those who've already voted.  Besides, I couldn't condense my thoughts to just a category title-- It'd take at least a paragraph or two or more.  I've pretty much said it all on other threads anyway.  But thanks for the offer-- I appreciate it. :)

I don't s'pose anyone but the Lord Himself really knows "the truth" about any of us...

al ;)