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Arthur
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« Reply #45 on: January 21, 2003, 09:40:04 am »

Garth Maul?  LoL.  Dude, you've done some spring cleaning of your posts there I see. I guess being an overcomer poster is not the goal anymore, eh?  
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« Reply #46 on: January 21, 2003, 10:12:04 am »

Praise the Lord!
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« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2003, 10:51:39 am »

‘Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any; even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.’ Col 3:12-13

Arthur,  Tim I am sure would be willing to talk to you, in time go for it.  Tapes are not being listened to in many places, if any.  Getting together would be fine, any time,  how about this week, let me know.  Email me tosetfree@sbcglobal.net.  Thanks for toning down some of your posts.

Garth,  I do believe that the inheritance is by promise and by grace.

Eric, I still am going to email you about your email to me, I’m just swamped and am not a super fast typer.  I do believe that the letter was mailed out to every place, but not sure if everybody read it.
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« Reply #48 on: January 21, 2003, 10:57:49 am »

Danny,

I should have been more specific........Can a  believer LOSE his/her inheritance?
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« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2003, 02:47:44 pm »

Hi Danny,

We are rejoicing with you brother. I am also very curious about the Northern Campus Confrence. As far as I can tell the saints in SF, Sac & San Jose have not heard the letter of excommunication. (See my post regarding the NCC) I was just wondering if it's been cancelled? Or if SF is sending in other preachers for the time or if you are still considering preaching at it???

Sister in Christ
Stacy in Arcata
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« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2003, 09:59:24 pm »

‘Follow Peace with all men and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord’ Heb 12:14

Garth,
Down the road I am willing to discuss doctrinal issues off line, I don’t think this is the time for us to probe into all of what I believe as these are age old issues, this issue of the Kingdom and rewards, forfeiture etc. is a hot topic in much of Christianity today and the influence of Lang, Govett, Chitwood, Dillow and others are seriously being considered in many large evangelical circles.  Right now we have a mess to clean up and make our repentance real in light of specific hurts and offences.  If you have some with Lombard I would encourage you to speak with Joe and Tim, I know these me are men of goodwill and are probably reevaluating a lot of what they have been involved in, now is the time to come to peace and restore fellowship among old friends and fellow Christians.  

Hi Stacy,
As far as I know the campus conference in the North it  is either canceled or greatly modified, SLO and Arcata are not attending.  We are letting SF, Sac and SJ work through these issues, I do know as of this morning that Sac is standing with Fullerton in view of the letter of excommunication and are having meetings with all to discuss these things, I don’t know about the others, but know that they have to work through it together, I am sure that many are speaking up there so like with all of us we need time to really filter through all of this.  ‘…walk worthy…with all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.’  Eph 4
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Arthur
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« Reply #51 on: January 21, 2003, 10:11:24 pm »

What posts are you referring to?

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« Reply #52 on: January 21, 2003, 10:14:36 pm »

Hello Everyone

I thought I would pop in and answer the most frequent questions that I get on email.  I'l stick to the ones that get asked the most.

1.) "Are you going back to the Assembly?"  No, we are not.  We are at Calvary Chape, SLO, and we intend to stay there.  However, we are in fellowship with our friends, whom we have known for almost twenty years.  This is a miracle of God's grace, and we couldn't be happier.  My children are overjoyed that they can see their friends and that they can visit eachother's church.  Amazing.

2.) "Why haven't you removed everything from the website, people have repented?"  I have removed the vast majority or articles.  Not everyone has heard the facts, or knows the darkness.  You will notice on this BB, that several assemblies may still be hanging on to darkness.  The people there need the opportunity that all of us had to be enlightened, albeit without the hurtful speech.  I trust that what is left on the web fits this category, coupled with the new tone on the BB.  All of the old stuff is available on request.  Also, my mail is about 90/10, with the majority saying, "Put up the old stuff."  Please don't jump on me for "caving under pressure."  

3.) "Why did you delete the humor thread?"  This is a tough one.  First of all, after the ANOP, most of it was a bunch of one-liners in order to make, "overcomer status."  Although it was fun, it hurt many people, the very people we wanted to see delivered.  In time, perhaps they will want to laugh and poke fun, and they are free to do so.  I won't be deleting anymore posts on the BB.  I got rid of the Voting section, for the same reason that last years' presidential ballots are thrown out.  There is no need for them, unless Gore wants a further recount.  Grin

4.)  "Is George just going to skate?"  I have no control over this.  I can't press charges against him.  There are people who can, and perhaps they will, but it is their business.  My ministry was to expose. I also found salvation in this exposure, and I learned some things about myself, which I needed to repent of.  God is not too happy with George, Betty, David, and those who still follow them.  I think He is quite capable of bringing justice to them, without my help.  If someone disagrees with me, they are free to start their own website.  I disagreed with the way George was being protected, so I did something about it.  Others are free to do the same, but my work in that area is over.  I shall devote my time to healing and reconcilliation.

5.) This is the big one.

What is being done for Judy and Rachel?  First, I want to add Rebecca and David to this list as well.  Judy has been truly apologized to, by people who were formerly in leadership.  Judy will be receiving restitution, although no words, or money, or punishment could ever give her back what has been taken from her. Rachel has not been forgotten, and she will also be apologized to, but we all felt that Judy needed priority, and that Rachel could take comfort in this.  There are many wrongs that still need righting. If someone wants to give, contact Rachel or myself.  I would prefer the latter, because I am trying to co-ordinate how to get things to Judy.

Look on the main page, sometime later today, and you will find that there is another, perhaps more important gift to give to Judy.  Keep your eyes open.

Parting Words:

Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled AGAIN with  a yoke of bondage.  Gal 5:1


May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you spirit, Amen.

Brent Tr0ckman
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« Reply #53 on: January 21, 2003, 10:29:26 pm »

Hi Brent, thanks for the update, and I like you rejoice that I will be able to go back to HB/Long Beach meetings when back in Cali (If they still exist), without having to get "THOSE LOOKS", and it is very refreshing to hear from ones of old.

While I am at it, no I am not going to make HB my fellowship (I know this question is being asked to a lot of people that have left from the Lodges).  Lord is using me here, and the past year+ I have been blessed to be allowed in helping in one of the ministries as well.  For those the Lord is leading to stay it is nice to be able to call you brethern and get a warm response in return now.

Lord Bless,
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« Reply #54 on: January 21, 2003, 10:42:08 pm »

Well, Danny, I believe it is a public issue as that was the doctrinal basis for the "carrot on the string in front of the horse" that motivated (by fear) people to perform for the assembly leaders.  I don't know what else to say.
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Arthur
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« Reply #55 on: January 21, 2003, 10:54:20 pm »

"Any and All Topics
Anything goes, no editing, no deleting"

What happened to "no deleting" ?  
Man, I'm going to miss those posts.  No more dork-eepers?  No more funny George-pictures?  Oh the inhumanity!  I don't suppose there'd be a way to get them back, would there?   I'll have to try to remember what we said for the sake of posterity Smiley
How are we all supposed to look back on this someday and laugh about it all?  Grin

As far as the other stuff - why not leave it up?  It's the truth, that hasn't changed.  There's still some reconciliation to be done, I'm concerned that people's pride might get the better of them and soon it will be, "oh, what we did wasn't so bad", or "I don't remember it that way", or "really, I didn't know."  
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« Reply #56 on: January 21, 2003, 10:54:53 pm »

Danny Edwards,

     I have been reading your posts. Why have you not registered on this site officially?    I have to say that I am glad that good things are happening in SLO.  That is a beginning but there is much more than a work in Slo that needs to be taken care of. So it is only a beginning.  I think that before everyone jumps on the bandwagon, there needs to be a real follow thru on all accounts.  THe leadership has STUNK in following thru in almost everything they have set out to do.  So it is good that you have an accountability with someone outside the lodge.  Those within have gotten away with stuff for way to long.   But like you said it does not erase the past.  THere are many who still have aches and pains.  Have hurts and scars for so long they don't even know who they are anymore.
     I know that you have carried the title of savior ( small letters) around with you for a very long time.  If there was a work in trouble ( St. Louis, Slo etc...) , they sent you to "save " them from going under , if you will.  That can really give a person a big head.  I hope that you have been humbled from that term or title in your life.  I know one person in particular that you have personally damaged very deeply and you DEFINITELY at the very least owe that one a serious apology.  You have devistated that one with your arrogance and know it all attitude.  It is by God's mercy that that person still has a walk with the Lord at all.  You handled that situation with God's child in a manner that is despicable.  If you want to know who this person is you can personally e-mail me thru this site.  
     On the contrary to what you wrote to Garth, this is INDEED the time to dive into what you believe.  People need to know if you are the leader of the pack now out there in SLO.  That which you said you believed before and stood by with George and others, all of a sudden you are saying you did not believe.  So what are we supposed to believe about you?  You need TO BE WILLING to tell what you believe on doctrinal issues out loud on this site and in public.  If you are making a stand for justice and a difference on the contrary to what you have said for sooooooooooo long then make a difference here and now.  State your beliefs, we need to hear them.  THis is the time.  After all some of the hurts and offences have come about because of your very stand from what you said you believed.  This is a part of the MESS that you need to clean up.  You no longer are in control of what people think and do and believe.  God is the only one who has that right.  What you believe on doctrinal isssues is important.    It screwed many a people up.  It turned many away.  So now is the time to be willing, and now is the time to state what you believe.  People are not going to let you off that easy after years and years of watching you kissing up.    I have seen how you have damaged some.  You don't set the rules nor the pace........anymore.  So when someone asks you something in light of what may be important to them, so do the usual and blow them off when you think the time is right?  Sounds like some things have not changed.  If you are going to make a difference, make one by not telling ones what you are willing or not willing to do at your time line.  That sounds like the same old control tactics.
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Arthur
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« Reply #57 on: January 21, 2003, 10:58:44 pm »

Hear, Hear, Sue.  Very well put.

Arthur
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« Reply #58 on: January 21, 2003, 11:07:03 pm »

Follow Peace with all men and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord  Heb 12:14


Garth,
Down the road I am willing to discuss doctrinal issues off line, I don’t think this is the time for us to probe into all of what I believe as these are age old issues, this issue of the Kingdom and rewards, forfeiture etc....

Why not, Danny?  I think now is an excellent time.  You said yourself that you "know of no false doctorine that is allowed".  No doubt then you would have no trouble at all expounding the true doctorine for us.  So tell us, won't you please, what is the true and sound teaching on inheritance.  Thanks buddy.

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Hi Stacy,
As far as I know the campus conference in the North it  is either canceled or greatly modified, SLO and Arcata are not attending.  We are letting SF, Sac and SJ work through these issues....

What do you mean by "we are letting"?  Do you have some influence over these autonomous assemblies?

BTW, what are you implying by citing Heb 12:14 at the top of your post?

Arthur
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« Reply #59 on: January 21, 2003, 11:59:14 pm »

 P. S.    Danny, there is no leading brother here with the first name of Tim.
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