IT IS TRUE!!!

[Aslan213]

Like many (if not all) of us who have left, we have many questions about doctrine and practice in the ministry.  I know many have addressed Danny.  I am thankful for his openness.  My question is, where are the others.  Danny was not the only one in leadership.  I would like to see postings by the others who are/were in leadership as well as Danny.

If you are/were in leadership, please respond on this BB.  There are many lives that need healing.  Unless they see you are real, they probably will not approach you concerning offences.

[Peacefulg]

Eric, well put.  I admit is nice that some have said come and talk to them and all that Jazz, and I know that we as the offended need to go to the one that offended us.

BUT from what I have been hearing from many and leaders being sorry and repentant, they know admit they wrong many by following man, and they know that this web site and BB are out here and quite a few have visited I take it.  So here is their chance to reach MANY and to being to show some fruits worth of repentance.  

Danny again Lord Bless you for coming on, and getting things started, but it is only a start (and I believe you know that).

Lord Bless,
G

[ptemplin7]

Greeting!

So glad to see the repentance has started. Its amazing at times to see how God will move.

Please feel free to contact me at ptemplin7@earthlink.net. My wife and I live in the the Bay Area in Redwood Shores (Redwood City). I'm currently looking for work so I have time to communicate.

Danny, The Lord will truly bless you and the other brothers as you repent. I was astonioshed top see Kirk's personal letter to me two years ago. I'm glad to see that you all have started on the path of making things right.

Lord bless while you work though this time. I'll be praying for you all and the rest of the gatherings who will no doubt be in great distress now that the truth is be "preached from the housetops."

Take care, please feel free to let contact me. That includes all those who might know me that are still in SLO.

Your Brother in Christ,

Paris

[BenJapheth]

Greetings Everyone,

Got this from Jeff Lehmkuhl...He's not really an internet guy...Although, he's trying.  I'm his Bro-in-law and this is the first email I've ever got from him.  He's not a big writer either.

He said I could post it.  For those who are curious, I was the guest at that wonderful, historic Saturday, January 18th meeting in SLO.  Grace moved that day and on the next day January 19th, the world was shaking and the grace seems to have become a Tsunami .  

God is working in Jeff and Nancy Lehmkuhl's life in a very powerful way.  They are both rejoicing together with their children...As you can read below, Jeff doesn't have all the answers...But, it's a new day for him, too.  He is as excited as a new calf skipping out of the stall. Feel free to write him at SLOAuto@aol.com


Dear Chuck,

Thanks so much for all of your help over the weekend.  Truly the Lord used you as a real peacemaker in my eyes.  Thank you.  Thank you.  I wonder at the Lord in all His goodness at the weekend that we had.  How I wish all could have been there.  

I logged onto the ga site to try to leave a post but can't really figure out the right way to do it.  I am just not good at this stuff and I don't seem to have the time to get good at it.  Brent showed me some emails from you.  I want to answer some questions from you.  First, the reason you don't hear from me is that I usually only read emails at my aol address.  I just am not around a computer enough to be able to keep up with it.  Second, you made the comment that you are not sure that I get it all yet.  You are very right, I don't get it all yet.  Even now many things are dawning on me.  Do I want to understand?  Yes.  Will I in time?  By the grace of God, yes.  It isn't easy to just say, "Well I was following a man and now I am not."  Many of us were following Christ with all of our hearts but were very blind to many things.  No excuses.  Just the way that it is.  

I want to post something that would attempt to communicate my sorrow and repentance and open myself up to those who might want to speak to me and show me more wrongs that I have done so that I can make them right. Perhaps you can help to do this.  I am rejoicing but I am very sorrowful and am spinning.

Thank you for all of your help and prayers.  We are in the thick of pursuing many plans of repentance.  I look forward to speaking with you.  Greet Ann and all of the kids.

Lord bless you,

Jeff

[Danny E]

Dear Sue,
Thanks for your note and thank you for reminding me of the person that I offended, as a matter of fact in the 4 ½ years I spent in Saint Louis I can think of two people that I greatly offended, I will seek them out. I can see how hurt you've been, we the leadership, have hurt so many over the years,  now we are endeavoring to get right with man and God, I know this is true for many.  

Thanks, I will register on the site as soon as I figure out how and then you can send me her email.

Sue, will you forgive me for my part in all the excesses of which you  list?  For any pain that I have caused?  God has shaken my life.  Yes, we do have accountability with local leadership, if it makes sense and you want to meet or talk to those leaders, maybe Brent could let you know how.  I am currently reviewing everything in my  life, nothing is off limits, my past behavior, my doctrine, my relationships.  I'm reviewing everything. So, please don't press me on my beliefs. Right now, I really don't know anything except that God's goodness and grace are real. His mercy to me is real. For me, it's a new world, God has brought me down to the dust.  Since Saturday, spiritually, I've been absolutely  laid out before God.  There's nothing left. Everything you are saying I deserve.  Will you forgive me?  Sue, I want your forgiveness and the forgiveness of others that I have hurt more than anything I have ever wanted in my  entire life. If you know of others and if there are others reading this post I will get things right with them. Please will you forgive me?

 

[Danny E]

Dear Garth,

Will you forgive me for hidden pride exposed and condescension?  You're are right I'm not in any position in "letting" or "not letting" anything happen, God has to work in lives and in my own.  When and if He does clarify things for us here in SLO, the only influence I'd hope to wield is that of love and goodwill towards all believers in this area.  Garth, pray for me, I need it.  If you want to talk call me, I'd love to speak with you. I posted my numbers on my note to Sue.

Peace, Danny

[Corey]

Glad to see you Paris.  How I have missed you...

I'll send more via email, but suffice it to say that I remember you quite clearly (Supremacy).

Is your mom doing well?

Take care,

Corey

[Danny E]

Arthur, I am sorry I guess part of the last post was supposed to be to you.  As far as the holiness verse, the emphasis was on peace.

Sue, I meant Paul Timm

[ptemplin7]

To those that may not know. Somehow it must have been repressed to the saints in SLO and elsewhere.

My mother went to be with the Lord in Sept. 1999. Unfortunately she was not able to see the end results of God's working by her seeing and witnessing the abuse in 1993. This was where I got involved and crossed David as well. The Lord used to shake up my house of cards and as a result I left a year later.

We both cared deeply for Judy and her situation. We were even denied access to see her when we visited SLO in 1995.

Brent or Rachel, I sent you an email too, but please pass on my greetings to Judy, little David and Rebecca. When they are ready I would love to talk with them.

Saints in SLO, you've started down a hard path but the end result will be the increase for God's kingdom. I am available via email or phone at ptemplin7@earthlink.net or at 650.508.0877.

I look forward to the renewed fellowship and seeing the happenings on this thread.

In Christ,  Paris Templin

[ptemplin7]

Brent,

I think what you still have up at the website is very helpful and acturate. I think the information there is appropriate for the other gatherings to know of the facts. This would be a great resource for them.

Keep up the good work!!!

Lord Bless, Paris

[Arthur]

Danny,

This is why I said what I did.   It was in an effort to help you through this transitional period.  You and others have practised falsehood for many years.  You lied to people to cover and protect the ministry at the sake of people's souls.  Without question, it will not be easy to immediatley cease those subtle practises.
When you say something that my conscience says, hey wait a minute, there's something wrong here, I'm going to tell you about it to help you stop doing that.
Your conscience must be weakend from all those years of supressing it, as well as forcing, coercing, intimidating or aiding those entrusted into your care to do the same.
The conscience must not be ignored, let's help build yours back up.
Danny, I praise God for your and others' repentance.  I have yet to talk to you personally to see for myself, but I hope to do so soon, and from what Brent says, I anticipate that I too can wholeheartedly join in with the thanksgiving and rejoicing.
Talk to you soon.

Arthur

[editor]

There ya go Arthur!  

I KNOW you will be overjoyed when you do talk to Danny.  I'll guarantee it.

Dear Friends, we are free.  Some see more than others,  but let's give people time.  I didn't see what I now know to be true the first day I left the Assembly, and neither will they.  Give God a chance to open their eyes, and then we can rejoice together!

OK, talk amongst yourselves......

Brent

[BenJapheth]

What to do?

I'm am an outsider or was until a week ago, although, most of my family has had an association with the assembly for more than 25 years - my bothers-in-laws are Wes Cohen, Jeff Lehmkuhl, Mark Sjogren, Mike Miller, and Wayne Mathews.  I'm married to Ann Miller who is the younger sister of Pat Mathews, Mike Miller, Chris Sjogren, Nancy Lehmkuhl, and Becky Cohen.

I want to greet all of them now in the Love & Grace of God...Greetings Family! Peace to You! Grace to you!

A couple leaders (former leaders in the assemblies? / former assemblies?) and yes even a couple family members have asked me what they should do.  I am not going to tell them what they should do, but I will tell them what I would do to make things right.  As I've been watching these boards and I think Danny Edwards is setting the pace for all current and former assembly leaders. What feats of grace and godliness!  This to me is what Christianity is all about. I used to say "If it weren't for Jesus I wouldn't want to be a Christian."  Well, what I'm seeing now is, at least for me monumental, it makes me want to be a Christian.  We're witnessing a miracle!  I've talked to Danny and others - I can tell you he is burning up the wires in getting right with men and women around the country...Whatever, he hoped to be in his old life he now is in my mind.  Indeed, a new day seems to be dawning.

Well, what would I do...

1.  RUN! don't walk...RUN!...Get to a lonely place, alone and take only a notebook, maybe a bible, but not necessarily a bible. Definitely a notebook and a pen.

2. I'd pray, "God give me a keen rememberance of anyone and everyone I could have hurt, anyone who could have been stumbled, anyone that I have sinned against over my many years as a believer."

3. Remember as many people as is possible and write down their names.  Also, write down the names of any person who might be able to lead me to people who are hurt. I'd cast a dragnet out for the offended. Maybe even hang-out at a Web site where I can quickly build my own robust list of the injured, the stumbled, the offended.

4. I'd get into the best long distance phone program money could buy...2000 minutes - NO! ...5000 minutes, maybe ...10,000 just to be safe.

5. Next, I'd burn up the airwaves with calls, calls and more call and where possible I'd get in my car and drive, and maybe get on a plane and go beg for forgiveness.  Beg! Beg! Beg! Grovel in the dirt and beg for forgiveness.  Beg without a shred of dignity, so that even Michal would despise me.

6. I'd try to do this incredibly fast because as people are realizing repentance is going on, and that they as yet had not heard from me, they would naturally assume either I forgot their hurt or that I hadn't fealt that I was guilty. I would understand time was not be on my side. It's like when you argue with your spouse - When in doubt you apologize and seek forgiveness, and make things right even if there is only a tinge of concern for offense. If I had sinned against a broad community I would be seeking everyone's forgiveness. No parsing of the past.

7. How to repent? If it were me, and I was in danger of permanently pushing someone into the gall of bitterness and hate...Okay, you asked.  I'd go buy a suit or shirt that I really can't afford and some nice pants.  Then I'd go find a pale and a bucket and find the nearest sandlot and hand scoop a bucket full of dirt.  I'd run to that person and falling down, I'd rent my clothes, tearing them up, maybe bringing some scissors along the exercise and I'd dump the dirt on my head, falling down and riggling around in it...All the while moaning for forgiveness.

Oh, why not a bring a bible when making up my list? Cause in my mind until I did got right with all those I had sinned against, God and I wouldn't be on speaking terms.

That's how I'd do it.

Chuck Vanasse
chuck@vanant.com

[Peacefulg]

Chuck, I pray that a lot of leaders see this posting.  I can testify that already I have been contacted by one (if you are that one and reading this I will be getting back to you soon), as well one has asked that I call them.

Lord is moving, and I can say this is waking me up to ever let the Lord search my heart constantly.

Lord Bless,
George

[editor]

Chuck

I need your permission to put this up on the main page of the website.  ASAP.

This is exactly what is needed.  Thank you!

Brent