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brian
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« on: April 13, 2006, 10:49:12 am »

i'm not sure about all the details around the former tuscola/charleston assembly, but i have seen some things over the past couple years that i think are good signs. my parents are involved there, but i have not attended any meetings myself.

there is not the same pressure to attend all the meetings. my parents have missed entire sundays just to spend time with family when i am visiting, and thats fine with everyone. no money is flowing into anyone's pockets. decisions are made together, such as when the meetings should be scheduled during the week. they want to know what will work for everyone, not place burdens on people. everyone is included in these group discussions, not just the leaders and not just the men. they wholeheartedly condemn and reject george as a leader, and call for his repentance.

my impression of them, without having attended, is of a small sincere group of believers who meet in their homes. no more, no less. they kept some of the things they liked from the assembly format, such as open worship and no paid clergy. but they have renounced many of the more cult-like and unhealthy aspects of former assembly life. they don't have 'training homes'. they have no animosity whatsoever towards those who quit meeting with them.

on a personal note, i have seen my parents enjoying life in a way they never could in the assembly. they have a mortgage  Shocked  Grin and various hobbies and interests that they would never have been able to pursue when they were wrapped up in the busy-ness of frantic assembly life. they are free to simply enjoy life. its great.

i have to admit i was kind of nervous that they wanted to keep meeting this way, in the beginning. i thought everyone would be better off just walking away, and finding more 'normal' churches. but every church has its problems, and if they enjoy meeting this way, who am i to judge them for it? as long as unhealthy, controlling spiritual abuse is not taking place, i think they should meet however they wish. i havent explored doctrinal issues with them in depth, mostly because that is not what is of major concern to me, so i can't speak to where they are at doctrinally.

clearly former assemblies are as individual and varied as the personalities are that compose them, which is in itself a good sign. some of them are still very unhealthy and cultish, but not all of them. can anyone else offer personal insight into where things are at in the other groups?

brian
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2006, 05:48:33 am »

Brian, I'm wondering--have your parents apologized in a meaningful way to you or Jenny for the impact their 18+ years of Ass'y involvement had on your lives?
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2006, 06:55:26 am »

Brian, I'm wondering--have your parents apologized in a meaningful way to you or Jenny for the impact their 18+ years of Ass'y involvement had on your lives?

first, let me give some perspective. when i first learned of the deep-seated corruption that had infected the assembly system, including the cover-up of david geftakys' extremely abusive habits, george's repeated infidelity, the gross misappropriation of church funds, etc, i felt compelled to do something to put a stop to it. what compelled me are the very values that my parents instilled in me through teaching and example. as a leader in the assembly, my father was hard on people sometimes - but he was always twice as hard on himself. that doesn't mean he was always right, but it does mean i have a deep respect for his integrity and sincerity.

having said that, my parents have apologized for the decisions they made while in the assembly that had a negative impact on me and on our family, and apologized wholeheartedly. and it was easy to forgive, because i know they made those decisions out of love and sincerity. that doesn't mean the effects of those decisions weren't negative, but it does make them much easier to heal from. and their apologies have been accompanied by real changes. also, i want to note that this all started well before the Assembly System under george fell apart a few years ago.

so in many ways, i am grateful for the way i was raised. not because the assembly system had much merit, but because the love and character of my parents have been such powerful and positive influences in my life. naturally, being raised in a corrupt cult still sucked  Grin  but a lot of american kids are sorely missing the good things i had, and still have.

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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2006, 08:42:32 am »

Hello Brian,

   I know that there are many people who are glad that you did something.   I also know that there are many who are not.   I didn't know your folks but I acknowledge the respect that you have for them with the noted caveats.   I hope and pray that many parents who raised their children in the disfunctional aspects of the Assembly have repented and regained the respect of their children.    I know some who have and some who struggle with this but are faithfully waiting on the Lord and honestly recognizing their errors.   I suspect that there are some who wish it could be like it was and IMO, harder times could still be ahead.

you wrote:
"...that doesn't mean the effects of those decisions weren't negative, but it does make them much easier to heal from...."

   The question is how negative were the effects for some of the young adults.   Do you personally consider healing for you to include a renewed faith or just that you are okay with all that has happened being water under the bridge?

   I am unable to condemn the young adults who questioned their beliefs based on the facade provided by many Assembly practices for I know that the Lord knows His own and will leave the 99 to retrieve each little one to the flock.   I know that the healing that our Lord has in mind will be truly miraculous!

   I pray that you will hear His call Brian, I truly do.

Love, Tony   
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