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Scott McCumber
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« Reply #120 on: January 29, 2003, 08:13:53 am »

At least he puts his name out there! Angry Angry
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« Reply #121 on: January 29, 2003, 08:14:06 am »

George was constantly disparaging formal study.  Now we know that God has gifted his CHURCH,  not every congregation, with teachers.  GG did not want the "saints" to learn from them!!   So he "insulated" his followers by two methods; building up a contemptuous attitude toward scholarship, and  actively trying to keep his followers ignorant!

wai wai, it was because of something BG said that i started looking into theology.

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Brethren, these men were apostles.  Our lives do not correspond directly to theirs.  We don't give inspired utterances as they did.  We have to learn God's word.

"some were given the gift of teaching, others the gift of prophecy."  The apostles were those who were called, just as the Lord can call and guide us today.  I agree that the correspondance is not a linear one, but i do believe there are many teachings to be found in studying their live's that can be fruitful in our own.

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We can see you doing the same things we did when we were in bondage.  You use verses in certain ways, not necessarily in line with the contextual understanding of the passage.  These verses were drummed into your, (and our) heads by constant repitition. When you read or hear them, the habitual thoughts emerge.

Very true.    I find this every morning: a light popping up in my mind linking a verse or 2 to ministry that i listened too.  One thing that has come out of this drumming has been the rememberance of scripture, committing verses to memory.

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It keeps you from hearing the voice of God!!!

This is a jump, one that i do not personally agree with.  Would remebering something your pastor said about a verse be contrary to what God is telling you during your morning time?


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5. Finally, remember the purpose of GG's assemblies.  He called them "testimonies".  They were supposed to display the wisdom of God to the world and the heavenly hosts.
They miserably failed in this.

To be fair, as God's Children, we are to be lights in this world, that includes living your life as a testimony.

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Now I ask you to think, What is the purpose of these assemblies now?

I realize that my comment on your last statement demeans your intention with this one, but i will give an answer.  I am still attending the assembly meetings because i see genuineness there.  I see true fervent worship, solid thoughtful ministry, and a real care the people have for one another.  I believe they there purpose is still what i have always believed it to be: a gathering of believers taking no name and meeting in a house to worship the Lord and study His word.




(hehe, qoute not qouta  Roll Eyes)
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lemonlime
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« Reply #122 on: January 29, 2003, 08:15:57 am »

this much is true, scott; luke uses his name.
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« Reply #123 on: January 29, 2003, 08:15:51 am »

For instance, the way I learned 1Jn 3:9 in the Assembly was that if there is any sin in my life I am not being born of God.  This is difficult to reconcile with 1Jn 1:8.  Now I believe that even at my best moment, I am still full with many selfish motives and foolish choices.  Nevertheless I have a loving Father and a faithful Saviour that can deliver me from any temptation that I am willing to trust Him for.  Better felt than telt.  

1Jn 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1Jn 1:8
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Greg,
How do you reconcile these verses?  If you say "born of God" means "born again," it still doesn't reconcile.
What I was taught is that "born of God" is abiding.  I can abide by simply asking for forgiveness, 1John 1:9 and believe, whch is coming to the light.  It is not just the "assembly" that teaches this.
Joel
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Scott McCumber
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« Reply #124 on: January 29, 2003, 08:17:23 am »

See, I'm terribly insightful. A real heavyweight! Spiritual Giant, I am! Grin

Hey, I'm on a roll. I'm thinking 300 posts tonight is doable - without Macros!

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« Reply #125 on: January 29, 2003, 08:19:30 am »

And let me get this straight? You are hoping that a brother in Christ is wounded so he will think the way you do?

Get out.

I am confused here: Guest - is there something you want to make mention of to me?  I am more than happy to discuss my beliefs on this forum, or even thru email if you desire.  Currently, you are causing a disturbance in this thread for no appearent reason.
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« Reply #126 on: January 29, 2003, 08:21:18 am »

.oO(i sense a disturbance in the force...nevermind... just the burritos i had for dinner...) oookay in any case, I was thinkin that myself scott
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« Reply #127 on: January 29, 2003, 08:21:50 am »

(that 300 posts is doable)
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« Reply #128 on: January 29, 2003, 08:22:39 am »

i verify that scott disagrees with luke about 90% of the time, if not more

I do too  Shocked
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« Reply #129 on: January 29, 2003, 08:24:54 am »

(that 300 posts is doable)

Hey now! i had to cheat to be as good as you  Grin

actually, i was just telling brian, i am itching to use another script that would change the actual value in the database rather than having to post actaul messeges.  The problem with this (and the reason i will not do it) is that i could accidently kill the site.........sooooooo, i will just resort to posting meaningful messeges whenever possible  Wink
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« Reply #130 on: January 29, 2003, 08:25:06 am »

*gets all emotional and goofy*

But I love you, bro!

*Well maybe not all emotional and goofy, but you get the idea!*
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« Reply #131 on: January 29, 2003, 08:28:25 am »

For the record...since I've known him since my birth ( he's two years older than me) .... I can attest to the Scott McCumber mystique...

Seriously Guys...it's not whether you agree with him or not...he is genuinely concerned about your future and wants to prevent you from going through what (we) experienced. I can only apologize for his brillance and passion that has its roots in real pain from the "old" Assembly and its teachings.

Guys...I hope you can all agree to disagree at some point and turn to GOD to make up the difference. Most of you are too young and too inexperienced to become leaders right now, but someday...this stuff will be more valuable than money!

PS. I took no compensation for that comment Smiley

Peace....
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« Reply #132 on: January 29, 2003, 08:29:43 am »

you sure about that brad? Wink
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Scott McCumber
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« Reply #133 on: January 29, 2003, 08:30:30 am »

Psst, Brad,

*in conspiratorial whisper* I'll pay you that $100 later.

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« Reply #134 on: January 29, 2003, 08:30:44 am »

Well we did talk about hooking up our kids for spring break in Florida... Grin
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