The Robinsons have hurt the flock

[Daniel Teater]

I unregistered a few days ago simply because I felt all of this was going no where,and that I had made matters worse by opening my big mouth.  However, I re-registered in order to tell everyone that I talked to Tony this morning over the phone, and the misunderstanding is being cleared up.  Thanks Matt for sticking up for my fam, but to a certain degree the verbal flogging I have recieved is justifiable.  I certainly think that there may have been some self-assertion in their posts but the message certainly was clear.  I am not here to defend myself, but rather to set the record straight.

TO BRENT AND VERNE:

 I haven't been able to sort through the whole mess yet but here is what I am able to tell you from my end.  I WAS WRONG.  Tony told me this morning that he never said that Paul was kicked out due to homosexual tendicies.  I want all who read this to understand that after a lot of miscommunciation and false-assumptions (on my part) things are being fixed.  I apologize for any hurt that I may have caused due to rash thinking and a fiery temper.  I now seek only to use this BB to clear up any misunderstandings I may have caused and clear any reputations that need to be cleared: namely that of Tony Edwards.

Daniel Teater

[Mark C.]

Hi Everyone!
  I venture into these troubled waters to offer some practical guidlines that I hope might be helpful  .
   I have been on several BB's in the past 12 years, other than this one, that have to do with the issue of cults/abusive churches.  At times I have noticed consistent difficulties on all of them when it comes to constructive discussion; difficulties which led to the abandonment of what had been a helpful participation.
  Good discussion does not mean the absence of debate or lively disagreement.  The problems arise when a poster makes a personal attack and than the offended recipient of the attack returns with a similar remark and then the thread is off to the mud-slinging races!
   The issues that surround the Assembly are one's that are very emotional for us, and I am certainly not asking anyone to suppress their feelings, but to improve the chances that their posts' are effective and persuasive.  If our goal is to change the thinking of others we will never achieve that by the use of name calling, as that only makes the other person defensive.
  If we are only trying to hurt others with our posts, because we have been hurt, then we need to be honest and humble enough to acknowledge these sins and find healing grace in Christ.
  "But Mark, you have talked about anger being a part of recovery?!" some may say.  Anger is a normal emotional reaction to being taken advantage of and abused.  I am not saying that it is the work of the Holy Spirit to create anger, but that it is the natural result of becoming aware of and sensitive to the evils of abuse (the anger of men does not work the righteousness of God).  
   Jesus and Paul became very angry with Pharisees and evil teachers, and they had some harsh things to say about them.  Yet, their anger came from an urgency to defend the truth of the Gospel, not from a personal defense of their hurt feelings(this would seem to define for us the difference between righteous indignation vs. sinful anger).  The defense of the Gospel is the championing of the little one's liberation from the toxic nature of false religion(the most noble cause to advance).

  What I believe can be helpful is if we post with the following in mind:

1.) Don't assume the motive of another poster. (We are told not to judge one another in this regard.)

2.) Don't attack another poster personally, (i.e. name calling etc.)

3.) Don't use the word "all" as in, "you always", etc. and when not refering to the facts of the Gospel use the phrase, "in my opinion". (the guide here is to use humility and tolerance when expressing our opinions.  What exactly happened in the hearts of Assembly leaders/members in far-flung Assemblies is beyond our human ability to correctly judge.  It is also impossible to judge the motives of those who defend the creation of the website/ BB.)

4.) Don't see individual posters as being  leaders/members of a conspiracy on the BB. (There are those who see conspiracies to defend the Assembly and others as conspiracies that intend to bring it down.  All of us here are victims, in one way or another, and as such we need to lift up our needy brethren here and not see them as enemies.)

  The key to a great post is one that is motivated by a loving concern for the other poster (even though we differ with them) and that seeks to minister the Gospel of the grace of God in what is said.  These posts' will have the most power, influence, healing power, and blessing for others here.  Remember there are a whole host of those who only read here and who are also looking for answers.
                                 God Bless,  Mark
 
   
   
   

[vernecarty]

I was Verne-bashing when I asked him to apologize for saying those nasty things about Luke and Paul on the "why leaders are responsible thread."

Verne:
I am curious too. You say you are for healing and yet you did your best to damage Paul and Luke Robinson when they were on this BB. As their elder, you surely had a responsibility to set a good example for them, and you didn't, sir. Then you start a thread trying to discredit their parents based on the observations of a blind man - a man who has sent many false rumors out there about the Robinsons to random people not even involved in the St. Louis assembly (like the both of us for example). I guess it's no surprise that you'd be one of the first to post in this thread. You're going to be held accountable for hurting God's people, Verne.

Trying hard to be gracious but pray tell...what nasty things? Please post them for all to see...
Matt do you remember accusing me of starting the thread actually started by the sister in St Louis? I did not even bother to protest that false accusation. I will ask again- what nasty things on that thread did I say about Luke and Paul?    
    Please post...
Verne

[editor]

I unregistered a few days ago simply because I felt all of this was going no where,and that I had made matters worse by opening my big mouth.  However, I re-registered in order to tell everyone that I talked to Tony this morning over the phone, and the misunderstanding is being cleared up.  Thanks Matt for sticking up for my fam, but to a certain degree the verbal flogging I have recieved is justifiable.  I certainly think that there may have been some self-assertion in their posts but the message certainly was clear.  I am not here to defend myself, but rather to set the record straight.

TO BRENT AND VERNE:

 I haven't been able to sort through the whole mess yet but here is what I am able to tell you from my end.  I WAS WRONG.  Tony told me this morning that he never said that Paul was kicked out due to homosexual tendicies.  I want all who read this to understand that after a lot of miscommunciation and false-assumptions (on my part) things are being fixed.  I apologize for any hurt that I may have caused due to rash thinking and a fiery temper.  I now seek only to use this BB to clear up any misunderstandings I may have caused and clear any reputations that need to be cleared: namely that of Tony Edwards.

Daniel Teater

Thank you Daniel.  This is a good start.

Will you tell us about St. Louis Sister?

Also, one thing about apologies that was dreadfully lacking in the Assembly, especially among the leaders, is clarity.

Vague admissions are not what the scripture is talking about, when it talks about confession and repentance.  

What you should do, according to the Bible, is say what you did, what you said, and how it was wrong.  Then you can apologize to people for something specific, in which case they know, beyond any doubt, that the matter is closed.

Example:  I told people that Tony was calling Paul a Homosexual.  I got this misinformation by_________, which was wrong on my part because__________.  I should have done_________.  Because of what I said and did, people wrongly thought___________.  I apologize for the pedantic nature of this paragraph, but we learned such a false idea of repentance under GG, that this sort of thing is necessary.

The lack of specifics makes it impossible for the person you sinned against to reconcile, because they aren't sure what you are apologizing for.  

Without going into details at this time,  what I am saying above is quite correct, in the scriptural sense.  

How about sharing with us some details?  I am ready to forgive you, as Tony is.  (He told me this, and I know he has been praying for all of you, night and day.)

Here are a few hints:

1.)  You said, "PM's to numerous people," amd "private message after private message was brought to light."

Tony Edwards:  I am appalled at your behavior and ridiculous slanderous lies.  I have watched in stunnded silence as private message after private message was brought to light.  Right now I am so infuriated at you I can barely type.  The latest lie is that Paul R. was kicked out of the assembly because of homosexual tendiences.  WHAT ROTTEN FILTH!!!!! I am telling you up front that you need to stop your crusade and get on your knees and repent.  Oh, I'm sorry or are you to busy typing on your keyboard already in response to my post.

Was this true?
2.)  You indicated that significat slander against your family was going on in St. Louis, from Tony.  Is this true?
3.)  What were your false assumptions?

This is the big one:

How did St. Louis Sister know about Tony's slander, when he didn't do it?  Am I wrong to assume that she must have heard it from you, or one of your cousins?  This needs to be cleared up.

Several posts from you, and your family, in which you do some real damage, and foment plenty of anger, bitterness, and everything else you accuse others of doing, followed by,

"I WAS WRONG," is still not quite right.  

Read the article on Biblical Repentance, on GA.com (AR.com), and you will understand where I am coming from.  ( I did not write the article, so please, no one start calling me God.)

Finally, yes I am trying to help you, and it seems that this matter is in the beginning stages of resolution.  Please don't stop short, but carry this through to completion.

Be Zealous and Repent!
Brent

[editor]

In other words, we can just insult someone and say - oh but I'm not insulting them, I'm *describing* them. Ok, Brent, don't take this as an insult, but rather a description of you - You have definite issues with pride, arrogance, and bitterness. I know you have been "described" that way by many. Did anyone else notice how gentle he was with STL sister, but the second she posted his PM to her, his tone changed dramatically - now she's a "dark manipulator." Too bad it's not all about Brent! I think it's funny that you are defending Andrea Denner's posts about the leading brothers being guilty for allowing GG to be arrogant. A little hypocritical, I'd say.

Sigh....

Matt, have you read what Daniel Teater just posted?

There was a person who lived next to us a few years ago, who was a sex offender. (we moved with in weeks of finding out)  What this person did was horrible and sick.  When I referred to this person as a pedophile, I was not insulting him, but describing him.

When some comes in your house, and tracks dirt on the floor, because they didn't take the time to check their shoes, we may call them inconsiderate.  It is an accurate description.

Insults are not deserved.  Descriptions are.

I was gentle with Saint Louis Sister, because I assumed she was a real person.  When I found out otherwise, I changed my tone for obvious reasons.  If you think my anger was simply because she shared a PM, think again.  There was nothing in that PM that I hadn't already made perfectly clear publicly, in 50 or more posts.  My anger was directed at the fact that I realized that someone was being slandered, and that someone was manipulating us on the BB.

We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but when people are being used by the enemy, we must address them, in order to fight the one behind the scenes.  Also, I had already read the things that Tony had sent before I posted, so I had far more factual information about what I was doing than you did Matt.

I understand why you constantly attack me, and I am willing to be patient with you.  However, instead of insulting me, I would appreciate it if you would look at what I wrote, what others wrote, and then how this is turning out.

BTW, my comment on "McTheology," stands.  Poorly developed, misapplied arguments, made without actually reading the thing you are denouncing is tantamount to declaring a product defective, because the box it comes in looks like the box you used to store old rags.  If you don't look inside, you could be wrong.

We await your next round of ascribing to me omniscience, omnipotence, co-workings with Satan, arrogance, lying, being a leader of a conspiracy, etc.

Or, perhaps you could stop it and argue ideas?
Brent

[editor]

Ok, SO WHAT?  Just because he can't post on the board makes his statements true?  Use your brain, it only says that he couldn't spread the lies further than PMs.  If he wanted a public message, all he had to do was say, “Hey, Brent, will you post this for me?  My computer can’t do it.”

Are we going to hear from Mark as well?  I don't think any of us would mind if he posted one or two more times, in order to restore Tony's reputation, which he clearly besmirched.  I also expect that he might want to take back several comments about me, where he call me a liar, when in fact what I said has proven accurate, and what he said is turning out to be false.

What of it Mark?  

Also, who is Saint Louis Sister?  Are you albe to tell us?

Brent

[vernecarty]

I unregistered a few days ago simply because I felt all of this was going no where,and that I had made matters worse by opening my big mouth.  However, I re-registered in order to tell everyone that I talked to Tony this morning over the phone, and the misunderstanding is being cleared up.  Thanks Matt for sticking up for my fam, but to a certain degree the verbal flogging I have recieved is justifiable.  I certainly think that there may have been some self-assertion in their posts but the message certainly was clear.  I am not here to defend myself, but rather to set the record straight.

TO BRENT AND VERNE:

 I haven't been able to sort through the whole mess yet but here is what I am able to tell you from my end.  I WAS WRONG.  Tony told me this morning that he never said that Paul was kicked out due to homosexual tendicies.  I want all who read this to understand that after a lot of miscommunciation and false-assumptions (on my part) things are being fixed.  I apologize for any hurt that I may have caused due to rash thinking and a fiery temper.  I now seek only to use this BB to clear up any misunderstandings I may have caused and clear any reputations that need to be cleared: namely that of Tony Edwards.

Daniel Teater

I am so proud of you I could just bust...!
Verne
p.s. Brent's advice is sound although a bit painful-what makes it valuable and perhaps needful is the public nature the discusions assumed. You should feel free to take time for reflection before proceeding (don't tell anyone but I've been there...)

[editor]

p.s. Brent's advice is sound although a bit painful-what makes it valuable and perhaps needful is the public nature the discusions assumed. You should feel free to take time for reflection before proceeding (don't tell anyone but I've been there...)

Hi Verne

I've been there too, but I must take you to task on something.  Repentance is not painful.  The sense of release, and of knowing that all has been made right is wonderful.  It is only painful if we are forced to admit wrongdoing, but strive to tell as little as possible.  This sort of pride feels excruciating pain when any humility contacts the slug-like skin.  Forced humiliation is indeed difficult for the person who MUST repent, but not for the one who is ZEALOUS to repent.

Daniel,  be zealous and repent.  You are already forgiven, now be reconciled.

Brent

[saxby]

I'm reposting this post from a few days ago.  I thought it was very revealing of Brent Tr0ckman's real personality and unlying motives.  Whether his PM to the St. Louis sister was posted originally by mistake or by fault seems irrelevent at this point.  This time he was the Dragon that got painted red.  He wanted everyone to just go forward to new vistas of raking through other people's weakness, difficulties, and woes.  But I, for one, would like to take a pause here and REMEMBER what I saw that shocked me.

I cannot allow these kind of slanderous comments, Brent. I agree with some of the things you are trying to do on this bulletin board, but I know the families you are referring to in this PM better than you do. I can testify that your comments on these kids are entirely untrue. I very much regret starting this thread and posting on here. Please forgive me St. Louis saints for this, I was wrong. Here is the PM I received from Brent. Brent, I had to expose the slander for all to see in case you've told other people these things about the kids of the leadership in St. Louis.

Hello There

While I understand that you were telling the truth, and most other people understand the same thing, due to the nature of the BB, and the participation of several people, you simply can't anonymously accuse a Robinson, Teater, or Dodorico on the BB.  Nothing has "come out," on them, so you set a precendent with your post.

Personally, I agree with you, that an Elder should not flee at the first sign of real trouble.  However, what did you expect?  While your story has merit, it simply can't be told from an anonymous perspective.  May I suggest that you slowly re-enter the community here,  and warm up to the issue?  You will find that we are a very forgiving and tolerant bunch, with the exception of the STL leadership's kids.  You will get nothing but abuse from them,  unless you defend GG and his leadership.

I'm sorry i came out against your post, but it was a matter of principle.  The vast majority of anonymous posts on this board have been from people who wanted to attack me, or defend GG, or both.  We didn't allow them to do it anonymously, and stated reasons of principle.  I couldn't compromise in this case.

Brent

[editor]

Hi Doctah--fake name--real person--previously registered under another name....

I thought it was very revealing of Brent Tr0ckman's real personality and unlying motives.

BTW, do you mean UNLYING motives, or UNDERLYING motives.  If you mean to say that I am NOT a liar, thank you.  If you are attempting to communicate some UNDERLYING, or HIDDEN motives, please feel free to do so.

Welcome.  What was it that shocked you in the post where STL sis, posted my private message to her?  BTW, she never wrote me back.

Was it the fact that she posted it?  Or was it the fact that I said something about the kids of the STL leaders?

I know that you are not new around here, so you are probably aware that I have had many words with the STL leaders' kids.  You may also have noticed that they were the ones who recently slandered Tony Edwards, and others.

So, what is it that shocks you?

Feel free to post any other PM's I may have written, in order to fully expose my UNLYING/UNDERLYING motive.  If you don't have any, I can lend you some.  Perhaps some of those I sent to the kids of the STL leaders?

Brent Tr0ckman--real name--real person--registered under my real name.

[editor]

This is just a repost, so that it doesn't get buried underneath all the posts where people are angry with me.

Also, remember that Tony has admittedly been falsely accused.

To all,

   My name is Tony Edwards.   It is a name that was known as a father, husband, friend, disability advocate and Christian brother…until now.   I am writing this message for the following reason:

Proverbs 22:1  A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favor rather than silver and gold.

   I returned home from a fishing trip on Thursday (May 22) and was encouraged by the time I had with my brother and two nephews.   They are each losing their vision from the same eye disease.   Two of them are not saved and we had a great opportunity to address issues and plant the seed of the Gospel.

 Thursday evening, I decided to check the BBS as I recalled a discussion on Free Will.   This was a common topic during our camping trip.  
   Well, I was devastated to see the topic started by STL Sister and then to see my name slandered in subsequent posts.
   All I feel I can do here is to make the following statements and hope that those who know me will accept them as the truth.

 *  I have not sent multiple private messages to a number of users on the board.   I only mentioned the resignation letter to two people via email.   I emailed a sister in California thanking her for a missing puzzle piece regarding couples meetings.   FYI, we were in a wonderful couples group and it was a blessing to Peggy and I.   I also emailed, what I thought was a letter of encouragement, to Luke.   Since this thread, I've emailed Brent, to tell him why I wasn't defending myself on the BBS, and to the young brother who was accusing me of lies etc.

 *  The BBS software does not work well at all with my adaptive software.  Reading is okay and all of the links are accessible, but to post a message is very difficult.    I also didn't have the time, or desire, to follow a thread and respond.

 *  I have no idea who is sending the PM's in my name.   But I assure you that they are lies and they are not from me.   I was in tears to think that Paul felt that I betrayed him.   Paul, the trip to the hospital to see Ian, during a very scary time, was a tremendous blessing for me and my family.
   For whoever is saying these things, I hope that you would consider the following:
Proverbs 6:12  A worthless person, a wicked man, Is the one who walks with a perverse mouth,
13  Who winks with his eyes, who signals with his feet, Who points with his fingers;
14  Who with perversity in his heart continually devises evil, Who spreads strife.
15  Therefore his calamity will come suddenly; Instantly he will be broken and there will be no healing.
16  There are six things which the LORD hates, Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him:
17  Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood,
18  A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that run rapidly to evil,
19  A false witness who utters lies, And one who spreads strife among brothers.

   *  I am not ashamed of anything that I've written in my emails, however, I do regret the lack of wisdom in sending them.   I did ask that the information not be shared and was even assured that it wouldn't be.  

 *  I do not have a personal vendetta against the Robinsons.   I think very highly of Tina, who has always been willing to extend service to my family.   I've always thought that Luke and Paul were quite amusing.   I can't recall ever questioning Jerry's ministry and I very much enjoyed our one on one conversations prior to the exposure of the Assembly.    For the record, Jerry did NOT offend me, just disappointed me.

 *   I have no idea of the depth of damage to my name here in St. Louis.   How many read the false PM's, read the posts on the board or spread the tales by word of mouth or email.   I guess it doesn't matter as I believe that my name will be vindicated whether it is in five days, five weeks or five months.     

 *   I wish to put this behind me and move on with my life as a husband and father.   It has been quite a humbling experience and I have learned from it.   I don't wish to discuss it further on here but if any in STL wish to contact me, they know how.   I am not angry or bitter but very saddened by this turn of events.   For those that have publicly slandered my name, if they see the error of their way, I'd hope for a public apology.

 *   For any Christian brother or sister in St. Louis, who has been healing and has been hurt by this whole mess…Please accept my deepest apology for any part that I have played in this pain.   For any suspicions or discomfort that has been the result of the lies.All I can say is that the Lord will shine light into every darkness and bring Peace.   What Satan has meant for evil, God can certainly use for good!

Wishing God's very best for all of His Pilgrims!

Tony Edwards
Taplive@juno.com
PR 2:7-12

I typed this letter, however my wife had to post it.

[saxby]

Brent,

I meant to say "underlying" not unlying motives.  I think most readers would figure that one out, but I surely want to be accurate for your sake, Brent.  Btw, in the following quote, the word precedent, in the way it was used Brent, there should be an "s" at the end of precedent.  Just thought you might like to know this rule.

Good try, but I will not give you a chance to try to verbally "out-joust" me.  You are very good at "selling" your ideas and manipulating people, but I think the following speaks for itself.  It's the spirit behind it that is sooo disturbing, folks.   Listen closely and go back and reread posts previous and following to the one below.  Brent really embarrassed himself and rightly so.  It is apparent that he is familiar with speaking the way he did in the PM (below).  He speaks with others on a regular basis behind the scenes,  i.e. coaching, teaming up, discussing and coordinating strategies of attack against any who are moderate in their views.  He wages war against any who will not take a clear position with him.  

This particular sister surprised him by having her own genuine response and by not going along with his attempt to coach her.  If you ask me, this kind of "UNITY" is the worst of what I know of the assemblies.  The unity of the brethren from the scriptures gives the idea of simple love (which is God's love) and kindness and innocence and wisdom from above......not manipulative and strategic.  It appears that we have a new leadership keeping very quiet as to outward show, but is clearly quite organized behind the scenes.

Brent, it seems to me that you are upset with PM's being publicly shared  because this could happen again.  Someone could betray your conficences.  You were very remorseful in later posts over this uncontrollable practice of posting a PM.  Is it because you normally count on hiding your strategies and enjoying the planning of attacks with your soldiers without the scrutiny of unbiased minds?   And, as would be consistant with this spirit, you lump everyone together in your verbal attacks who does not rally to your personal views.  Your attacks are often against some of the greatest people one could possibly know.  

I cannot allow these kind of slanderous comments, Brent. I agree with some of the things you are trying to do on this bulletin board, but I know the families you are referring to in this PM better than you do. I can testify that your comments on these kids are entirely untrue. I very much regret starting this thread and posting on here. Please forgive me St. Louis saints for this, I was wrong. Here is the PM I received from Brent. Brent, I had to expose the slander for all to see in case you've told other people these things about the kids of the leadership in St. Louis.

Hello There

While I understand that you were telling the truth, and most other people understand the same thing, due to the nature of the BB, and the participation of several people, you simply can't anonymously accuse a Robinson, Teater, or Dodorico on the BB.  Nothing has "come out," on them, so you set a precendent with your post.

Personally, I agree with you, that an Elder should not flee at the first sign of real trouble.  However, what did you expect?  While your story has merit, it simply can't be told from an anonymous perspective.  May I suggest that you slowly re-enter the community here,  and warm up to the issue?  You will find that we are a very forgiving and tolerant bunch, with the exception of the STL leadership's kids.  You will get nothing but abuse from them,  unless you defend GG and his leadership.

I'm sorry i came out against your post, but it was a matter of principle.  The vast majority of anonymous posts on this board have been from people who wanted to attack me, or defend GG, or both.  We didn't allow them to do it anonymously, and stated reasons of principle.  I couldn't compromise in this case.

Brent

Btw, I doubt I will be posting again.  So say what you will.  I do, however, reserve the right to repost previous posts.

[editor]

Brent, it seems to me that you are upset with PM's being publicly shared  because this could happen again.  Someone could betray your conficences.  You were very remorseful in later posts over this uncontrollable practice of posting a PM.  Is it because you normally count on hiding your strategies and enjoying the planning of attacks with your soldiers without the scrutiny of unbiased minds?   And, as would be consistant with this spirit, you lump everyone together in your verbal attacks who does not rally to your personal views.  Your attacks are often against some of the greatest people one could possibly know.  

Hi there.  It seems as if you have missed the big news here.  Kids from STL slandered a guy named Tony Edwards, accusing him of doing all sorts of things, which he never did.  An anonymous poster attacked Jerry Robinson, and his kids, praised Verne and me, then changed their tune and did the exact opposite.  She then posted one (ONE) (1) of my PM's and you Saint Louis kids (you are one of them Doctah) seem to have forgotten that Daniel Teater admits that what he said about Tony was wrong, and you continue to jump all over me, for telling someone the truth, and that is that the ST. Louis Leadership's kids dish out nothing but abuse on the BB.  I don't mind saying it in public.  As for your assertion that there is a highly organized cabal behind the scenes, I am quite flattered, because the fact is that there is no such thing, but if it looks like it to you and your cousins, it implies that what I write packs a punch.  Thank you.

As for this:

Brent, it seems to me that you are upset with PM's being publicly shared  because this could happen again.  Someone could betray your conficences.  You were very remorseful in later posts over this uncontrollable practice of posting a PM.

I am not worried that this could happen again.  In fact, I am INVITING people to do this.  Please post my PM's on the board in order to make me look bad, or good.  I still have all the ones you sent me, Doctah, shall I post them?  I won't do it without your permission, buy you do have permission to post mine, including any email from me you might have in your possession.

Anyone who wants the entire contents of my outbox need only ask, and I'll send it to them.

I think we should have a thread where this post from ST. Louis Sister can be posted over and over and over, so that people can see how I control a vast, behind the scenes network, where we have a strategic and manipulative unity.

Do you have a problem with the way Tony Edwards was slandered by the "kids?"  Or is the fact that I declared the truth to someone in a PM a worse offense?

Brent

[vernecarty]

Brent,
 Your attacks are often against some of the greatest people one could possibly know.  

Such as...?
Verne

[saxby]

Brent,

I hate to break your heart, but I'm old enough to be your parent.  If someone grabs a parking place in front of you, do you suspect the "kids"?  If someone calls and wakes you up at night and it's a wrong number, do you think, oh it's those robinson "kids" again? They perhaps have lives.  Do you?