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« Reply #90 on: January 20, 2004, 02:05:54 am » |
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About George and the Seventh day creation. You need to see this episode of Star Trek GENERATIONS called “Chosen Realm”. It is about a cult leader who is fighting all the so called heretics. Remember what we were told about the Catholic Church and the big box denomination on the corner was worldly. Now the tables are turned we see the truth. The big churches were often more orthodox than the Assembly and as many are finding out were often more zealous for the truth and more Godly than our leaders. http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/ENT/episode/3394.html Hugh
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« Reply #91 on: March 02, 2004, 12:20:59 am » |
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Yesterday we watched the movie 'Not Without My Daughter' Summary: American Betty Mahmoody goes with her daughter and her Iranian-born husband to his native Iran for a vacation. Soon Betty discovers her husband doesn't intend to ever return to America. He will let her go, but her daughter must stay. As a stranger in a foreign police state, Betty has no money, no friends, no rights, and makes a desperate, heroic bid to escape with her child. Based on a true story. I wonder if the Irani muslim community say: "Don't watch that movie. It is all lies recounted by a disgruntled wife. Everyone who watches that movie falls away from Islam."   Marcia |
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« Reply #92 on: March 02, 2004, 04:48:59 am » |
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Marcia:
Don't forget "That movie is a tool of the devil." - as they also consider this bb.
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« Reply #93 on: March 02, 2004, 06:42:09 am » |
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About George and the Seventh day creation. You need to see this episode of Star Trek GENERATIONS called “Chosen Realm”. It is about a cult leader who is fighting all the so called heretics. Remember what we were told about the Catholic Church and the big box denomination on the corner was worldly. Now the tables are turned we see the truth. The big churches were often more orthodox than the Assembly and as many are finding out were often more zealous for the truth and more Godly than our leaders. http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/ENT/episode/3394.html Hugh Have you seen these three star trek episodes (two from DS9 and one from Voyager) that touch on the cult theme? http://www.st-hypertext.com/ds9-2/ds9-2rev.html#paradisehttp://www.st-hypertext.com/ds9-7/covenant.htmlhttp://www.st-hypertext.com/voy-6/collective.htmlThe one (covenant) where Dukat leads a paghwraith cult was too much. One of the married cult members has a child that is half-Cardassian (Dukat's race, which is very different from the Bajoran mother and father). He claims that it's a miraculous sign. lol, too funny |
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« Reply #94 on: March 02, 2004, 08:02:50 pm » |
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I have seen Covenant and Collective but I don't know or I can't remember seeing Paradise. I think Star Trek especially Voyager has some very excellent moral messages in them. The DS9 "Covenant" episode was an excellent one for exposing how leaders will use a spritual twist to get their way and stop critical thinking on the part of the followers. I highly recommend everyone who says Sci-Fi is not profitable to watch a few episodes and see the moral plots. Some of them are excellent. And I repeat I get more out of Star Trek than I did out of the Assembly ministry. Hugh  |
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« Reply #95 on: March 02, 2004, 09:56:54 pm » |
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When I left the assembly and went 'underground' seeking to flee those trying to reconvert me, I spent many an evening with my landlady, and our Suzanne Summers exercise gear, watching star trek. I was particularly struck by the borg and their likeness to the assembly, speak, dress, think the same. Goal: to assimilate. Resistance is futile.
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« Reply #96 on: March 02, 2004, 11:32:52 pm » |
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When I left the assembly and went 'underground' seeking to flee those trying to reconvert me, I spent many an evening with my landlady, and our Suzanne Summers exercise gear, watching star trek. I was particularly struck by the borg and their likeness to the assembly, speak, dress, think the same. Goal: to assimilate. Resistance is futile.
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Maybe that is why I like the Star Trek episodes, because of all the spiritual, social, and assembly parallels that I can see in them. Voyageur is especially good for this. E.g. Borg drones get delivered from the collective and become individual thinkers. http://www.st-hypertext.com/voy-6/collective.htmlStar Trek: Voyager "Collective" "Negotiation is irrelevant. You will be assimilated." "Not today and not by you." -- The Borg and Janeway If only we had had more leaders like Janeway Eh Delila?? Marcia |
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« Reply #97 on: March 02, 2004, 11:45:55 pm » |
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I can't say I've ever watched Trek in Suzanne Summers exercise gear, sounds intriguing.
Star Trek is chalk full of interesting ideas isn't it. There's a book out called All I needed to know about life I learned by watching Star Trek
I really like it when the episode contains a solid sci-fi story that makes you think.
But some episodes of the most recent years of Trek have liberal messages that are just plain crap. For instance the one in DS9 where they show two women kissing. Another is a Voyager one in which Chakotay tells Neelix there is no after-life. I'm glad there are reviews so I don't have to find out I don't want to see them until it's too late.
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« Reply #98 on: March 03, 2004, 06:26:52 am » |
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But some episodes of the most recent years of Trek have liberal messages that are just plain crap. For instance the one in DS9 where they show two women kissing. Another is a Voyager one in which Chakotay tells Neelix there is no after-life. I'm glad there are reviews so I don't have to find out I don't want to see them until it's too late.
Trek isn't still being made is it? I thought... oh that new one... yeah. With the hot lookin' dead pan faced Vulcan. Haven't seen many episodes. I'm with Marcia on the Janeway leadership. But when it comes to disagreeing with what's being shown, like two women kissing etc.... well, I'll say this much: I don't look to a TV show to rewrite what I believe, just to challenge it. Now that I'm out of the assembly, I have the ability to establish a difference between eating an apple and being eaten by an apple, or the TV for that matter. Art and culture should inform and challenge us. What's my personal ideology worth if it can't be challenged? delila |
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« Reply #99 on: March 04, 2004, 02:10:52 am » |
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Trek isn't still being made is it? I thought... oh that new one... yeah. With the hot lookin' dead pan faced Vulcan. Haven't seen many episodes. I'm with Marcia on the Janeway leadership. But when it comes to disagreeing with what's being shown, like two women kissing etc.... well, I'll say this much: I don't look to a TV show to rewrite what I believe, just to challenge it. Now that I'm out of the assembly, I have the ability to establish a difference between eating an apple and being eaten by an apple, or the TV for that matter. Art and culture should inform and challenge us. What's my personal ideology worth if it can't be challenged?
Yeah it's called Enterprise and I heard most of the episodes are mediocre. Alas, seems like Star Trek is puttering off into the sunset. Doubtful there'll be another movie. Good point about the tube not having to dictate your opinions. I don't have to watch it if I don't want to. All the Original Series, Next Generation and DS9 are out on DVD now. Voyager is just now coming out. All 24 episodes of Battlestar Galactica is out, and most of the Mystery Science Theatre 3000 episodes are also out. DVD's are so cool. Who even needs cable when there's Netflix? |
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« Reply #100 on: March 05, 2004, 02:39:02 am » |
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Hi everyone Now is the time to act before more poor souls are affected. For those who can't remember the good old days <sarcasm intended> Check the new article out. This will remind any of you who have grown complacent what all the fuss is about. I am out and happy but what about those who are not aware in the general public. They are ripe for the picking just like we were. I don't want them going through what I went through. My story of 19 plus wasted years is bad enough some of you have been through even worse. Let's not forget and keep going forward to inform and help people safely avoid the same pitfalls we had. http://www.rickross.com/reference/assembly/assembly38.html Hugh |
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« Reply #101 on: March 24, 2004, 10:01:19 am » |
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There are new episodes of the original trek coming out, well sort of. You can download them here. http://www.5yearmission.com/STNV_WEB_files/episode.htm |
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« Reply #102 on: December 08, 2004, 09:57:12 am » |
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We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.
C. S. Lewis
This can't be right! If this quote were true, it would mean that people in a Geftakys-lite assembly shouldn't be there.... They have repented I tell ya! How much more do they have to repent? Why shouldn't ex-leaders be able to lead a "new work?" They've repented, I tell ya. C.S. Lewis must be wrong. Brent Brent, you are wrong. They are right. 1. C.S.Lewis is right. It just does not apply to them because they weren't really affected by GG. 2. Though they are lite, they have dropped the G-word and have become e-lite. Marcia  |
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