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Tim Souther
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Glorious liberty of the sons/ children of God
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January 12, 2003, 12:15:58 pm »
Ro 8:21
- Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the
children
of God.
First I rejoice because this is what I believe is the experience of many, like me, who have departed from the Geftakys grip.
Second, however, I was wondering... I always wanted to ask George G. why he always read the end of this verse as "the glorious liberty of the
sons
of God." instead of using the correct word, which is
children
. The Greek word is "teknon" which means "children", as opposed to "huios", which means "sons". Every Bible translation I've seen uses the word "children". The only place sons was used was in his preaching. Was this but another sign of the emphasis on making ourselves inheritance material?
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Curious
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Re:Glorious liberty of the [s]sons[/s] children of God
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January 12, 2003, 06:23:13 pm »
Good thoughts...but doesn't Ro8:28 say...And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
Was the referenced verse a typo or am I reading my bible wrong?
I have found great comfort in Rom 8:28 knowing that God is going to use all this mess for good...I know he's used it in my life to open my eyes and give me hope...for the first time in years I have peace and joy...not just my "meeting face" to keep up appearances!
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Sebastian Andrew
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Re:Glorious liberty of the [s]sons[/s] children of God
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January 12, 2003, 08:11:10 pm »
Greetings:
...if
children
then heirs...!
Ephesians was also a key book for me(another story).
In my opinion the word
sons
is used in light of the inheritance theme, but we
are
sons through faith in Christ Jesus (Gal. 4:6-7). The fullness of time has come, and God sent His Son to redeem...so that we might receive adoption....We are not not under trusteeship any more. The date set by the father has passed, the fulness of time has come! God
sent
His Son.
And because you ARE sons God has sent the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying "Abba! Father!" So
through God
you are
no
longer a
slave
but a son, and if a
son
then
an
heir
.
The only process that I can see is a historical one-God's timing as He worked up till the death of Messiah. I can't see a "taking the place of son's" process after one has already been born into the family of God. George's teaching is a sure guarantee for religious burn-out. Frankly, the assembly is such a mess all around that I couldn't recommend anyone go there even if some locales seperate themselves from headquarters. It would be taking too much of a gamble with people's lives.
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Sebastian Andrew
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Re:Glorious liberty of the [s]sons[/s] children of God
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January 13, 2003, 02:48:38 am »
4HIM:
I hope you didn't think that because you made a mistake in your reference I was referring to you as a mess? Someone else pointed it out already so I didn't bother.
Sebastian Andrew
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Sebastian Andrew
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Re:Glorious liberty of the [s]sons[/s] children of God
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January 13, 2003, 02:53:28 am »
Addendum:
Pointed out the mistaken reference, that is
.(I can't edit either)
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