Indisputable facts? Then you won't mind if I dispute them.
The movie points out that:
A conservative majority on the Supreme Court decided that Bush was our next President.
This so-called conservative majority on the Supreme Court has voted to legalize sodomy and on-line pornography in public schools. To make the claim that they have a conservative majority is ludicrous. To go on to claim Bush had some influence over them in the election is insane. If you want to raise up the issue of the election, how about the thousands of votes for Gore in New Mexico that came from dead people.
Before 9/11 Bush was on vacation 46% of the time.
So? Sounds like a typical government employee. The fact that he's working more now after the terrorist attacks is a good thing, right Dave?
The Saudi governemnt owns 7% of the U.S. Much of this money is tied into Texas oil owned by Bush and friends.
Where did you (or Moore) get this figure? Even if it's true, so?
135 Saudi citizens (Many relatives of Osamin Bin Laden) were given flights out of the U.S. two days after 9/11. (U.S. citizens were grounded and many U.S. citzens were taken in for questioning about their ties to terrorist.)
So? Did the Moore film mention that these relatives of Bin Laden have publicly renounced Osama?
Against the advise of the U.N. and many people in his cabnet own Clark ect...Bush invades Iraq on the premise that ..."The U.S. is in danger od being attacked by Saddam Hussain and his weapons of mass destruction.
Bush was the only one willing to act upon the U.N. ultimatums. The U.N., not the U.S., made these ultimatums in the first place.
As of today no WMD'S are found.
So? Why did the U.N. make the ultimatums in the first place? Because there was no doubt that Hussein had these weapons. They were probably moved before or during the U.S. invasion.
over 800 American soldiers dead
Only one Soldier stationed in Iraq is the son of a U.S. senator
while the vast majority of U.S. soldiers were recruited on the premise that they could elevate themselves out of a life of poverty. Many of the U.S. soldiers joined believing it would lead to acollege education. Many U.S. soldiers believed that they would be coming home after 3 months.
So? Are you saying that all of the soldiers fighting in Iraq today are too stupid to not understand that joining the army means combat?
All this information was already known to the American public. All the Mr. Moore has done is make it acsessable and entertaining to the to the general public.
If you call propaganda entertainment. Are you the type of person who said a hearty "Amen" when Hitler sent media throughout Germany stating how it was imperative to annex Czechoslovakia to the fatherland.
Daily life in Iraq is driven into chaos. Innocent people are killed, injured, disabled for the rest of their lives.
As of today over 15000 Iraqi citizens are dead
11000 Iraqi soldiers dead
This one takes the cake. Do you think things are so much worse in Iraq today than when the Butcher of Baghdad was in power? Why don't we have all the people who were tortured by Saddam shake your hand and thank you for understanding that their plight today is worse than it was then...oh but they can't because their tongues and hands are cut off. Where do you get your information? Tom? Peter? CNN? The Times? The Post? Oh, that fat slob, communist America-hater Moore?
Every day they display their horror show hoping the American public will pick it up like the tabloids. But if you listen to the people who are actually there and working in Iraq, you'll learn that most Iraqi's are very glad the American's are there. They want their freedom and are working towards it. A commander there said that Iraqis no longer consider Americans foreigners. To them, Americans are the ones who are training their police, building new sewers, helping get the IT infrastructure up. When they refer to terrorist attacks that occur in their country, they refer to them as attacks from foreigners--the foreigners being the terrorists from other countries such Iran and Syria who've crossed the border to stir up trouble.
Is America or Bush bent on conquest? For a long time during the war people like you were complaining that he wanted oil. In fact, we could pull up a post of yours where you said that very thing. But did you know that America is footing the bill so that Iraqis can get cheap gas? 5 billion dollars a month it's costing us. And on top of that gas prices rose 30-40% here in the U.S. It should be clear to everyone what America's role is in Iraq--and it isn't oil or conquest--it's to help these people. If you aren't willing to help them, then you can just shut up.
All of this lowlife's Moore's points are vague connections and nebulous points. There's nothing substantial to it at all. It's just a lure, he dangles some morsels of trash on a wire, to get easy-to-be-misled people like you to shell out 8 bucks to see it.
Arthur
