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« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2004, 10:40:44 pm »

Marcia -

It is a true but sad observation on the state of American society
that there are "well-read" people who do not like it when
Scripture is quoted to them or around them.

But please do not assume that I am one of them.

Isaac Newton, the foremost physicist in the world before
Einstein and Heisenberg, really did not distinguish between
science and religion, nor between science and magic.  For
example, the Church of England had to burn alot of
Newton's private papers after he died, so that noone
would be embarassed by his "heresies".  Also, even
though Newton was a believing Christian, he thought
that alchemy was still possible and not the work of
the devil, e.g. changing lead into gold.

So it is only recently that "well-read" scientists and
scholars have become enemies of Scripture.  But I
have to say, this may be because  scientists and
well-read people don't like it when non-scientists
and non-experts pretend to know things they can't
possibly know anything about, e.g. the "intelligent
design vs evolution" issue.

I believe that there are TWO ways for people to
know the world - the way of science and mathematics
(thru the head) and the way of religion (thru the
heart.)  I can read science and math with my head
and still appreciate scripture with my heart.

I wish that more people would be willing to agree
on this obvious compromise.

Best regards as always
David
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« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2004, 11:58:14 pm »

Marcia -

It is a true but sad observation on the state of American society
that there are "well-read" people who do not like it when
Scripture is quoted to them or around them.

But please do not assume that I am one of them.

Isaac Newton, the foremost physicist in the world before
Einstein and Heisenberg, really did not distinguish between
science and religion, nor between science and magic.  For
example, the Church of England had to burn alot of
Newton's private papers after he died, so that noone
would be embarassed by his "heresies".  Also, even
though Newton was a believing Christian, he thought
that alchemy was still possible and not the work of
the devil, e.g. changing lead into gold.

So it is only recently that "well-read" scientists and
scholars have become enemies of Scripture.  But I
have to say, this may be because  scientists and
well-read people don't like it when non-scientists
and non-experts pretend to know things they can't
possibly know anything about, e.g. the "intelligent
design vs evolution" issue.

I believe that there are TWO ways for people to
know the world - the way of science and mathematics
(thru the head) and the way of religion (thru the
heart.)  I can read science and math with my head
and still appreciate scripture with my heart.

I wish that more people would be willing to agree
on this obvious compromise.

Best regards as always
David

David,

Yes, most of the early scientists were Christians.  They knew God so they knew that there was an order/system to nature.  Claude(my husband) finds geometric shapes fascinating and he can marvel at the structure of the bee hive or the pine cone arrangement, and then marvel at the book of Ephesians or some other passage of scripture.

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I believe that there are TWO ways for people to
know the world - the way of science and mathematics
(thru the head) and the way of religion (thru the
heart.)  I can read science and math with my head
and still appreciate scripture with my heart.

But when both the head and the heart come into play then there is a greater wonder and appreciation of nature and of life in general.

The problem with many scientists is that they almost seem to have an objective to prove things without bringing God into the picture, so they end up fudging the results and promoting fake theories.
I recently heard that Stephen Hocking has changed his mind about his black hole theory.  Good for him to be willing to admit and to change his mind about something he was wrong about, but there are many who believed his theories on the black hole to be 'gospel truth'.
There is not many a doctor who has delivered a baby that does not believe in the Designer of the birth process.

Great discussion.
Lord bless,
Marcia
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